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A lot flippy. But not squirely. At my high altitude, it's a good flippy. I'll be taking it to sea level next week, I suspect it'll be good for hyzer flip turnovers with some height but not much else.Smyith said:emiller3 said:Flat = flippy
like bad flippy or only a lil flippy?
Peot said:171 GL Midnight Blue shift and a 172 poppy top Yellow Opto just arrived... testing these out alongside Champ/Star/DX Wraith and a SOLF. Any chance I could use both the Wraiths and Flows or is that excessive?
Peot said:In my limited trial with one of these GL ones about a month ago, it has a notch more HSS, less LSS and a lot more glide than a Wraith. For someone who isn't ready for a Force/PD2 or something is a heavy, fresh premium plastic Wraith different enough from a Flow to be used in a more aggressive headwind?
what'shisname said:Peot said:In my limited trial with one of these GL ones about a month ago, it has a notch more HSS, less LSS and a lot more glide than a Wraith. For someone who isn't ready for a Force/PD2 or something is a heavy, fresh premium plastic Wraith different enough from a Flow to be used in a more aggressive headwind?
I'm not overly familiar with Wraiths but I do throw Flows for distance and wouldn't throw an Opto Flow in to a heavy headwind and wouldn't even think about the GL Flow into the wind. The Opto Flow will handle a decent wind, but when faced with heavy headwind I'll usually disc down to a stable SPD or if it's really windy and I need Max D I'll pull out the C-PD2.
discspeed said:what'shisname said:Peot said:In my limited trial with one of these GL ones about a month ago, it has a notch more HSS, less LSS and a lot more glide than a Wraith. For someone who isn't ready for a Force/PD2 or something is a heavy, fresh premium plastic Wraith different enough from a Flow to be used in a more aggressive headwind?
I'm not overly familiar with Wraiths but I do throw Flows for distance and wouldn't throw an Opto Flow in to a heavy headwind and wouldn't even think about the GL Flow into the wind. The Opto Flow will handle a decent wind, but when faced with heavy headwind I'll usually disc down to a stable SPD or if it's really windy and I need Max D I'll pull out the C-PD2.
GL Flows are not inherently less HSS than Optos. I've had some domey GL Flows that actually penetrated the wind a little better than my optos...They were also 176g. All around the Flow is workable in 5-10mph headwinds, but not much more. This is not so different from the Wraith. There are runs of stiff, poppy top Star Wraiths that fare better into headwinds, but they are not easy to track down. If you have the arm for the Flow then you probably need something more stable to use for wind, and the same is true for the Wraith. Both are high speed turning drivers that fade late, and that's not necessarily a recipe for success in the wind.
turso said:@Discspeed
Did the deflashing of the FR opto flows make em lose just LSS or both HSS and LSS?
Booter said:Anybody want to give up any opaque pink or yellow opto flows?
Booter said:Anybody want to give up any opaque pink or yellow opto flows?
upchuck1383 said:I originally bought a clear Opto(172g) and a midnight blue gl(170). The opto seemed to be a little more overstable then I was hoping for, and quickly left the bag. I used the GL for about 6 months and it become too flippy. I switched to a new 170g blue gl and it while it was still pretty understable it wasnt as flippy. I hear a lot of people referencing that the midnight blue is the most understable of the bunch. I am considering switching to a VIP/TP combo of swords. The VIP seems really similar to my pro destroyers with moderate wear. I like the aspect that its stability won;t change quickly. The question is: Should I just make the jump to a different color flow, or give the Sword a go as my straight/slight turnover driver?