Nose up (and other) issues.. Help...

[Moneycannon]

And do you want to shift the hips to neutral or forward against the target?

 

[seedlings]

You pull a disc like you pull a hammer to hit a nail. And you push a disc like you push a hammer to hit a nail. In other words, to hammer a nail, you move the hammer back, let it fall forward, then accelerate it's own weight with the fall. Same with a disc, except you shift hips to start the disc moving forward. Hips shift neutral to slightly target ward at release. During the same time, shoulders go from 180deg from target to almost target ward.

 

[seedlings]

The first worker is hammering like you are throwing the disc. His form looks good, but he's forcing the hammer. We tend to force the disc by pulling hard, and spinning hips and shoulders. The disc is very light, but we STILL have to work with it's weight, just like the big hammer.

 

[sidewinder22]

Yeah, you aren't really getting your shoulder loaded back against your rear leg like a sling shot, and your stance is really spread out with no real shift/brace as your front leg collapses. If you get loaded in door frame drill, you should automatically unwind after letting go of door frame and dropping onto braced front leg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxnhM5amro0#t=1m14s

 

[Moneycannon]

Thanks for the answer guys!
So if i get it right i should:
- Have my feet more sideways and shift hip more from neutral to forward.
- Turn (coil) my upper body more
- Let the weightshift and hips bring disc into power pocket
- Take a smaller last step
Does that sound right?
Really appreciate all the fast and helpfull answers in here btw

 

[seedlings]

Sure, but it's more of a feeling than a doing. You can do all the motions yet miss the feel. Also, the last step is feel rather than prescription.

 

[Moneycannon]

I am having a hard time getting that feeling.. I feel like i try so many different things that sometimes it just becomes bad. But im not giving up on getting that feeling!
btw do you see any reason why i`m throwing low? I have a tendencie to throw really low (Sometimes straight into the ground 100 feet in front of me..

 

[sidewinder22]

Cause you are throwing downward with nose up, instead of throwing upward nose down.
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137985

 

[Moneycannon]

so i should have a lower reachback or should i fix my spine tilt?

 

[seedlings]

so i should have a lower reachback or should i fix my spine tilt?

All of it will come together simultaneously with the drills SW posted. You can't really work on one thing without working on the whole swing.

 

[Moneycannon]

Okay so i have a couple of questions that has been on my mind:

1. Do you want to pull hard with your body from the start of the reachback? Or do you want to be smooth from the reachback to the powerpocket and explode from there and out?


2. Do you want your spine to be straight (Like when you push out your chest) or do you want to be more hunchback?

 

[sidewinder22]

1. Heavy swing, slow in, fast out like a NASCAR turn.

2. Big back/lats and protracted shoulders during swing like Olympic Hammer throw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQYGzTlVetQ#t=7m

 

[Moneycannon]

what do you mean with big back/lats?
So from what i understood from that you want to bend your spine a little forward or did i get it wrong?

 

[Moneycannon]

and also with heavy swing you mean slow in the start and speed up slowly and be on max at end?

 

[sidewinder22]

Lat/shoulder blade should be pulled taut like hammer throw. Need to start slow to swing something heavy and explode at the end.

 

[Moneycannon]

So i`m alittle confused when it comes to grip. On some clinics with schusterick and wysocki they say that almost no pros tuck their index finger underneath the rim and more rest it on the rim. But on other sites where they talk about the grip they tuck their index. what`s the best way? tucking or more resting it on the rim?

 

[sidewinder22]

I think he uses his words poorly on that. It is tucked, but it's the finger print on the inside rim, not the finger tip/nail on it like the middle two fingers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2LheJ0tZ-4#t=1m50s

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3730905&postcount=4

 

[Moneycannon]

But do you want to pinch the disc with the index or more press thumb down on index?

 

[sidewinder22]

Thumb / wrist down.

 

[Moneycannon]

So i am looking on different articles and have read about swedish style and american style. Is it true that there are different ways of generating the power in the disc golf throw (And what are the different ways of generating power)? or am i on the wrong path?