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Not getting Tomahawks to flip/turn

Coincidentally I had to tommy an approach yesterday after finding the rough.... well, I didn't HAVE to, I could of tried to go through the shrubbery between me and the basket... but you know how that goes.... the shot at hand was around 175' uphill and had to finish to the left so I made sure of this by throwing my roller disc(300S F7) high and hard, with a lot of angle to help it around. For thumbers I throw as overstable disc as I've got(750 H1), and for tommy's the most under stable. As Dan said above: I've seen a fellow that could flip thumbers and tommy's multiple times... but he could also throw them over 400' so there's that....
 
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