Q&A
The guys at MVP were nice enough to take the time to answer a bunch of your questions from the question thread that ended just a few short days ago. Talk about a quick turn around! A big thank you to the crew at MVP for participating in this Q&A!
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Now without further ado, enjoy the MVP Q&A!
1. Are the cores for the Envy and Alias new (as someone who never really liked the MVP cores, I'm hoping so)? If so, will MVP and Axiom share cores, or will they remain exclusive to each brand?
Depending on the model type, some cores will be shared between both brands, but also some cores will be exclusive to their respective brand. For example, the Envy has a new core with a lower profile and has a more traditional inner rim without the large radius. The Alias however will share the same core as our other midranges.
2. Will there be a way to custom order various color and weight combinations?
It's up to retailers how they want list the various weight and color combinations. We recommend talking to your retailer directly and letting them know what colors and weights you are looking for.
We allow retailers to specify notes for their color and weight preferences when they place orders. Stock availability fluctuates on a regular basis, but we will match their preferences as accurate as we can. To compensate for the vast combinations, we will do larger production runs in the Axiom brand to achieve a larger color and weight variety. Additionally, we will stock stamped and unstamped Axiom models for disc dyers and custom stamps.
3. What are the main differences in the two and what will the different "teams" focus on exclusively?
MVP Disc Sports is the powerhouse for production and distribution of Axiom products. MVP's focus is performance and technology in the product lines. Axiom's focus is to be as stylistic and beautiful as possible, meanwhile being supported by MVP for performance, quality and consistency.
4. Is there a plan for Base line cores and different over-molds for that matter-- softer/harder?
There are a lot of advantages that can be attained with GYRO™ Overmold Technology in a baseline plastic. We have done some trial batches of baseline plastic in our putters. So far we are satisfied with the performance of the material. The reason we have not released it yet is that it is going to require a new mold (core and overmold) that suits the shrink parameters of the overmold process. The combination of a new plastic line and new molds means that baseline plastic requires a larger investment and learning curve than the discs we are developing at this point, so it has not been a top priority. Since our lineup is expanding, the priority of a baseline plastic has moved closer to the top now. It's hard to determine whether we will be able to launch it this year.
On a related note, when it comes to baseline plastics versus premium plastics, both core and overmold materials have to be in the same polymer family to be bondable. Therefore, it's not feasible to do a baseline core with a premium plastic overmold, and vice versa.
5. Will we get MVP molds (Amp, Volt, Ion etc) as Axiom discs?
MVP and Axiom will have their own set of unique models with aerodynamic profiles. As mentioned before, some will share cores, but some cores we plan to keep unique to a particular brand.
6. I believe the Overmold works and I understand the theory, but have guys tested it against the same disc sans the OM in the early stages of R and D?
In our early days, we took an ultralight Wizard (~110g) and taped washers as weights to bring the overall disc weight to 175g. We did trials with mass taped in the very center, some with mass taped towards the outside, and weight distributions in between. The affect on flight from the weight distribution is very evident. The further you distribute mass away from the axis of rotation, the tighter the lateral movement of the disc. Although it was a primitive test, the principal still holds. We encourage everyone to try this experiment themselves.
Our design program allows us to calculate the moment of inertia of a design. We have experimented with numbers of practical weight distribution with our designs, and the results are larger than you would think because the moment of inertia increases at a parabolic rate with mass distribution. At this time, we keep statistical data proprietary due to competition.
A recent experiment we did was take a lightweight (150 grams) conventional disc and grind off the nose tip, essentially creating a core out of it. Then we overmolded it with our GYRO™ Overmold. Here are some pictures:
7. When are you going to make an overmolded fastback?
We enjoy playing with lids too. We think it would be cool to have a lid in our lineup, though it's going to be in the longer term. We feel the market size for a lid is probably quite small compared to most traditional discs. As we transition into in-house mold making we will be able to lower costs in mold making and allow us to branch out into more boutique mold styles.
8. Could you go into a bit more detail about the motivations for forming Axiom discs, and wanting to create a sense of separation in your two lines?
We attribute the exotic look of our Eclipse discs as a big factor. Many people buy Eclipse discs exclusively for the vibrant colors that result from the brighter overmold. However, the expensive glowing agents add a lot to the cost of the Eclipse Series, so we decided to branch out from the traditional black rim to make those vivid colors available at a comparable cost to the standard MVP Neutron and Proton series.
We feel that the unique appeal of the color combinations justify a deviation from the MVP brand's traditional black rim. Words and pictures don't do justice for the beauty of Axiom Discs. We are stoked to produce discs that emulate the Optic™ effect of the Eclipse Series without the added cost of glow. Similarly, brighter overmolds on the Neutron series enhance the Neon™ effect of the brighter colors.
To answer the question, why not add the color combinations to the MVP lineup? The traditional black rim in the MVP lineup holds a strong aura with the theme of science and technology that create a consistent appearance. We felt that adding colored overmolds to the MVP lineup was too drastic of a change that didn't fit the MVP branding theme. Hence we formed Axiom Discs as an affiliate brand to MVP that was more suitable to the idea of added style from colored rims.
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