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[Recommend] Understable speed 9 drivers.

There were some Star Valks that came out very flat and were very overstable relative to Valks in other plastics and amounts of dome. I happened to get one of those. IMHO it wasn't just the plastic but the way they molded up. I'm preferring my Champion Valks (both F2s) when I throw Valks on the range; they are not as beefy.

I see. My F2 Star is pretty flat. I like it though because it allows for different type of lines. I figure it'll beat into "traditonal Valk" territory then I can carry a freshy with it. I'm digging it though becuase if I put anny on it it takes the anny but always hooks up at the very end. Very unique disc.
 
Yeah this thing has piqued my interest for sure. I haven't looked into it much yet.

Garrett Gurthie used a Sphinx on a roller in the Utah Open this weekend. I'm looking forward to trying it as a roller, and also see if I can use it for a dead-straight disc in the woods, maybe on a hyzer flip or less than 100% power throw.
 
Garrett Gurthie used a Sphinx on a roller in the Utah Open this weekend. I'm looking forward to trying it as a roller, and also see if I can use it for a dead-straight disc in the woods, maybe on a hyzer flip or less than 100% power throw.

Yeah, I saw that. At first I thought I didnt like the name of it.... Then I realized Inthrow Wizards and a Doombird so that subsided LOL.
 
Sphinx sounds nice. I haven't found much luck with Innova molded speed 9 flippy drivers. For me, they tend to fly more overstable than I would ever expect.

Trilogy, on the other hand, is where it's at for that flippy complement to my thunderbirds. Until I fully work a pro thundie in, a fuzion escape and a VIP hatchet make very nice flip up and fly discs that rely on glide to get where they are going. I liked the Culverin too, which was plenty stable for me, however they tended to get away from me a little easier than a thundie, especially into a headwind.
 
Sphinx sounds nice. I haven't found much luck with Innova molded speed 9 flippy drivers. For me, they tend to fly more overstable than I would ever expect.

Trilogy, on the other hand, is where it's at for that flippy complement to my thunderbirds. Until I fully work a pro thundie in, a fuzion escape and a VIP hatchet make very nice flip up and fly discs that rely on glide to get where they are going. I liked the Culverin too, which was plenty stable for me, however they tended to get away from me a little easier than a thundie, especially into a headwind.

Have you tried a Fury? Gold Line Furys beat in from mildly to very understable in a relatively short time with frequent use. Until the Sphinx came along, nothing was able to replace the Fury in my bag.
 
Sphinx sounds nice. I haven't found much luck with Innova molded speed 9 flippy drivers. For me, they tend to fly more overstable than I would ever expect.

Trilogy, on the other hand, is where it's at for that flippy complement to my thunderbirds. Until I fully work a pro thundie in, a fuzion escape and a VIP hatchet make very nice flip up and fly discs that rely on glide to get where they are going. I liked the Culverin too, which was plenty stable for me, however they tended to get away from me a little easier than a thundie, especially into a headwind.

I'll take a thundy on hyzer into any headwind. I havent found a single DD fairway mold that was able to stay in my bag.
 
I decided to revive this thread simply because I couldn't fond a Valk thread. So the question I have is: are the star Valks more stable than others? I have jeard that newer Valks are coming out more stable Is this true? TIA for any input

So, the stars are particularly beefy over the other plastics? I have an amazing F2 star and its nothing like my older champ (now lost) and if I work this bad boy on paired with a fresh one it'll cover a multitude of lines.

Basically yes they have more beef than years ago did, thought it isn't a crazy amount. From the Starfire thread:

Have you thrown a recently run Valk? I purchased four Stars and two Champs (and a bunch of DX but that's another story) and they all have some meat to them fresh. Not overstable but I was putting them near 450' with minimal turn. 375' on some tight holes and the fade was apparent. Thrown next to some older 4x JKs that are 6ish/10 it was obvious that these discs were new, but also made me consider the possibility they'd be beefier than a 10/10 4x. Difficult to compare a used and kind of abused PLH to one fresh off the press:|

I agree it's abandoned, but shouldn't be. Hell...most of DGCR would benefit from only throwing them as a distance driver and nothing faster. Valks has a magical cruise to them and just take off.





Now for my question, why did I stop throwing them for so many years? :wall:
 
Have you tried a Fury? Gold Line Furys beat in from mildly to very understable in a relatively short time with frequent use. Until the Sphinx came along, nothing was able to replace the Fury in my bag.

I have thrown a Fury actually, and I think the thing that caused them not to click was the blunt nose which seems to slow them down. I got a nice flightpath with them, but I felt like I was getting the wiggle I was looking for with less forward penetration and carry than I expected.

If I didn't like the flight of the VIP Hatchet I found so much, I would likely be throwing an Opto Fury. Oddly enough, yes, I have tried both of these molds in GL or TP, and I found both to be more stable than opto/VIP. I found the same thing to be true of the Underworld.
 
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