Why can't I throw stable drivers?

[billnchristy]

overstable-------stable------understable

If you say something is more stable it is moving to the middle.

You could say it is more OVERstable and that would move it to the left.

 

[Midnightbiker]

You just confused me with that last post.



Lets start over.

What exactly are you looking for in a disc?

Here we go again

 

[lilpup8]

maybe try getting a lighter wraith?

 

[facesnorth]

You just confused me with that last post.



Lets start over.

What exactly are you looking for in a disc?

This isn't my thread so I don't want to make it about me. But it seemed to me that you were saying overstable drivers are less stable than understable drivers. Why else would saying a driver is less overstable than another disc mean it should be considered "more stable"? Doesn't less overstable mean closer to stable...and closer to understable?

 

[facesnorth]

overstable-------stable------understable

If you say something is more stable it is moving to the middle.

You could say it is more OVERstable and that would move it to the left.

OK...NOW I get it. Now I see. More stable does not mean more overstable. It means closer to the middle. Nevermind all of my posts in this thread....

 

[Omega SuperSloth]

overstable-------stable------understable

If you say something is more stable it is moving to the middle.

You could say it is more OVERstable and that would move it to the left.

i wish i would have thought of drawing that i think i confused myself we need to give that drawing its own thread

 

[ThePatrick]

The Wraith is an stable/understable disc at high speed. It is also too much disc for alot of people. It took me a while to actually comprehend this. It can be thrown by people with less strength/slower arm speed for a predictably overstable flight/fade. That being said, it can be thrown by everyone, but to see a similar flight pattern as to the innova chart, you should be throwing in the 450ft+ range. When I first started throwing farther the Star Wraith had just come out. I wasn't getting any extra distance by throwing it, but it was the latest/greatest disc on the market. It pretty much hyzered for the full 320ft or so that I could throw it. As it started to beat in some and I got stronger and better form, it finally started to flatten out and "S" out some. Then the Destroyer came out, and I went through the same process, but couldn't throw the Destroyer as far as a well thrown wraith....now the Boss is out... long story finished: throw what feels comfortable and gives you the most distance at about a 90% throw. Your accuracy will thank you. Don't feel like you have to throw something because everyone else does. If that TL is getting you that much distance, don't change. Or at least look for something just a little faster, that will give you only a small disc change, so that your form stays consistent. Like a few other people said, try an Orc or Valkerie. That would be my suggestion.

 

[jesus]

I'm not believing that you can throw a TL 380, if you think a star wraith is too overstable for you.

 

[ThePatrick]

Yeah, is that one or two throws at 380, or most of your full drives are about 380'?

 

[jesus]

He said the 380 was a line drive shot, which would mean he could put it 400+ with an anny. If you can do that with a TL, you would have no problem with a wraith.

 

[garublador]

I had a few 380' Gazelle shots last weekend and I had to force a Wraith over to get it to flip from a hyzer. They took an anhyzer throw to get out farther than my fairway drivers.

 

[CwAlbino]

He said the 380 was a line drive shot, which would mean he could put it 400+ with an anny. If you can do that with a TL, you would have no problem with a wraith.

I have to agree with this.

 

[Omega SuperSloth]

Well the Wraith is an understable disc...the bigger I try to throw mine, the greater amount of annie as well. I would say it's ether a technique flaw...or characteristic, depending on how you look at it
While most will tell you that form is key, i will also add that maybe a more overstable disc that's a touch slower would help you out on your drives.....I'm thinking a TeeRx or Starfire might work out a little better for you...but yeah, that Wraith, you give it a touch of annie and that's where it's going!

screw the wraith get a Starfire the wraiths too sensitive to angle and power . ive got a 167wraith and a 167 starfire and all the wraith will get me is 10-15ft more most of time and with alot less control on where it ends up

 

[progolfer33]

I'm not believing that you can throw a TL 380, if you think a star wraith is too overstable for you.

Well believe it man. I actually looked up typical distances on here at a course I play all the time to make sure my estimates were accurate. This is the reason why I made this thread in the first place. I don't understand why both of my drivers go the same distance when the Wraith should go further.

 

[jesus]

I don't believe it.

 

[Omega SuperSloth]

Well believe it man. I actually looked up typical distances on here at a course I play all the time to make sure my estimates were accurate. This is the reason why I made this thread in the first place. I don't understand why both of my drivers go the same distance when the Wraith should go further.

the reason is the wraith(maxweight and new) is a 400ft+ driver and from the sounds of it you got a pretty good arm but just because they got 13 speeds now dosnt mean that 11 is anything to sneeze at and alot of the people who claim to chunk the wraith like the charts flight path arent throwing max weight non-broke in wraiths . Plain and simple its a pretty serious disc .

 

[garublador]

alot of the people who claim to chunk the wraith like the charts flight path arent throwing max weight non-broke in wraiths .

And/or apply off-axis torque to get a more understable flight.

 

[progolfer33]

Thank you to everyone who has posted constructive feedback. I think I've narrowed it down to the wide lip and the fact that I think I was throwing my anhyzer on the wrong arm angle. I think I might throw hyzer flips with the valkyrie until I get better.

And to jesus...anytime you're in CO, I'd be happy to show you my 380' TL.

 

[XxInnovaxX]

And to jesus...anytime you're in CO, I'd be happy to show you my 380' TL.

is he trying to be dirty here????

 

[garublador]

Thank you to everyone who has posted constructive feedback. I think I've narrowed it down to the wide lip and the fact that I think I was throwing my anhyzer on the wrong arm angle. I think I might throw hyzer flips with the valkyrie until I get better.

And to jesus...anytime you're in CO, I'd be happy to show you my 380' TL.

With that kind of power you'll probably find that extra distance won't really be the biggest advantage of throwing a disc that's faster than your TL. The biggest advantages will be that you'll get more fade at the end, they'll fly farther into headwinds and they don't require as much height to go as far. They won't be as controlable or accurate as the TL, though.