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2014 Am Worlds...Minneapolis
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I was impressed to see a bunch of pros at this event. Hats off to all of them, even if they didn't whip out the wallet like Paul did. Cale was awesome and took time to talk to LaPutka after he won. Paige P was there watching as well.
Craig639
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Just a FYI, the organization that ran Am Worlds is not a club or the Minnesota Frisbee Association, it was a retail dg store...and not a well-liked store.
If MN runs any Majors or NT's in the future, it should be run by the MFA. This is the ONLY WAY to run an event of this scale.
yeah who ever organized it really lacks in event planning. I offered help to only be ignored :| How many volunteers will you round up that way?!
Not very familiar with this Snelson guy but have never hard anything good since playing DG here in the twin cities.
I also stopped shopping at Fairway Flyers after my first few DX discs though too soooooooo.
Not very familiar with this Snelson guy but have never hard anything good since playing DG here in the twin cities.
I also stopped shopping at Fairway Flyers after my first few DX discs though too soooooooo.
I was told by several locals that a lot of the issues with the tournament and lack of communication and organization stuff was due in large part to the TD being a huge d bag and a huge amount of animosity between area TDs and this guy. As well as a lot of players in the area not being a fan of him and his poorly run events.
How accurate is this? And if its accurate how the hell is this guy in charge?
If its the guy im thinking of, my only experience with him was annoying and i can for sure see why other folks have a problem with him
How accurate is this? And if its accurate how the hell is this guy in charge?
If its the guy im thinking of, my only experience with him was annoying and i can for sure see why other folks have a problem with him
I have no experience with him personally but you are on to something'
When "they" took over the p2p of KP/Valley it was a little ugly if I remember correctly.
When "they" took over the p2p of KP/Valley it was a little ugly if I remember correctly.
UCF_Knight
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Good luck with that. They were selling them pretty cheap after the players party, I think it was $5 for one or 2 for $7. BUT, I bought roughly $200 worth of merch on Sunday when the sale started and left some other plastic I had picked up throughout the week to be shipped back to me. I was told this was not a problem at all and left my # so we could figure out actual costs of shipping later. Its now been 4 business days and I have heard nothing and have gotten no response after calling and leaving a message.
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i didnt attend the players party nor did the people i went up there with. i did hear about this but didnt know enough to feel like i should mention it. but ya its f-ed up, ive never heard of paying for a players party, paying for a cup to drink the beer yes, but not for the whole shabang, and its always been like $5.....
paul is awesome, i didnt know about that. another reason why he is the man.
and a true Champion of the Sport!
ScottyLove
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I can tell you about my brief encounter with the TD...
I went looking for him to discuss the ins/outs of Pay to Play... like how the split works with the city and such. I'm about as snarky as they come and he offended me with his smart ass comments and such. Like I said, I'm kind of known as the local ass-hole and this guy makes me look like a saint.
To top it off, when a young 8-10 year old approached him to tell him that he had recieved an Adult Medium shirt instead of a child size, his comment was, "What do you want me to do about it?"... I thought the kid was gonna cry. There's a time to be a douche bag with your buddies and a time for professionalism. I don't think this guy knows the difference.
I went looking for him to discuss the ins/outs of Pay to Play... like how the split works with the city and such. I'm about as snarky as they come and he offended me with his smart ass comments and such. Like I said, I'm kind of known as the local ass-hole and this guy makes me look like a saint.
To top it off, when a young 8-10 year old approached him to tell him that he had recieved an Adult Medium shirt instead of a child size, his comment was, "What do you want me to do about it?"... I thought the kid was gonna cry. There's a time to be a douche bag with your buddies and a time for professionalism. I don't think this guy knows the difference.
Yeah... My encounter was very similar.
He was pretty rude to me when i told him my pack was missing a disc (was the U b putter) after that got worked out, he was handing packs to people and if they took 1 second to look in there bags he was on their ass about being in the way and not so nicely telling them to move. Just being a sarcastic dick in general. I tried to chalk it to him being stressed but what it really was is that he was tying to talk to a hot asian chick and people kept 'interrupting' him by checking in and asking for their packs. I watched him for about 5 min while friends were checking in that i was waiting for, it never stopped. He was a huge ass to several juniors ( a few of which the parents definitely noticed ), just totally unprofessional and set the tone for what was a long week
He was pretty rude to me when i told him my pack was missing a disc (was the U b putter) after that got worked out, he was handing packs to people and if they took 1 second to look in there bags he was on their ass about being in the way and not so nicely telling them to move. Just being a sarcastic dick in general. I tried to chalk it to him being stressed but what it really was is that he was tying to talk to a hot asian chick and people kept 'interrupting' him by checking in and asking for their packs. I watched him for about 5 min while friends were checking in that i was waiting for, it never stopped. He was a huge ass to several juniors ( a few of which the parents definitely noticed ), just totally unprofessional and set the tone for what was a long week
Well, after all this I hope whoever is running next year's is making a list of what NOT to do!
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i dont know anything on this personally but from comments of people i talked to from the MI area next year could be similar to this years.
BG Am Championships all the way for me, Poor Man's Worlds as someone told me last week. lol.
chopz33
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name drop?
RyanisCorriganis
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Mike Snelson of Fairway Flyers. A couple other guys from the St. Cloud area and myself stopped in to use some funny money shortly before AM Worlds. For the hour we were in there we heard Mike spew many negative things about the MFA and it's officials, PDGA, and Disc golfers in general. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.
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The local mn players I talked to did not have positive thingsbto say about him. I take everything with a gain of salt but from everyone's comments and evidence maybe there was something to it.
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I don't mean to pile on, because I honestly feel bad for the guy. But...
I will confirm that Mike has been spewing the same hate speech over the last decade. He has made numerous enemies over the years and is a thorn in the side of the MN Disc Golf community. At this point, I think most of us would just like to see him close up shop and exit gracefully. I have a feeling that won't happen and that we are likely to see more hate filled rhetoric and drama from him.
I will confirm that Mike has been spewing the same hate speech over the last decade. He has made numerous enemies over the years and is a thorn in the side of the MN Disc Golf community. At this point, I think most of us would just like to see him close up shop and exit gracefully. I have a feeling that won't happen and that we are likely to see more hate filled rhetoric and drama from him.
Do people just have a problem standing up to the guy or whats the deal? How the hell does someone like that even become a TD of AM worlds in the first place?
This is why DG is so F'd up-- its seriously a matter of some drunk enthusiaic crazy guy doing it first before being done right and that goes from countless new courses to half asses ideas which a few of them became DG companies (how im not sure...)
Who lets this happen at the PDGA? Where is the accountability? Why doesn't the MFA have a bigger say in all things MN DISC GOLF vs some frog town shop owner? The amount of us vs them here is very strange and even within the industry. A lot of these companies could grow much faster and more successfully working together than exclusively.
This is why DG is so F'd up-- its seriously a matter of some drunk enthusiaic crazy guy doing it first before being done right and that goes from countless new courses to half asses ideas which a few of them became DG companies (how im not sure...)
Who lets this happen at the PDGA? Where is the accountability? Why doesn't the MFA have a bigger say in all things MN DISC GOLF vs some frog town shop owner? The amount of us vs them here is very strange and even within the industry. A lot of these companies could grow much faster and more successfully working together than exclusively.
Im not going to defend anyone here but I think it is hard to find people to put in the time to run an event like this. I think when the bid was put in there were some problems with local TD's having some PDGA issues (not paying the PDGA for tournaments that had been run). Mike has always been nice to me and has helped me out with product for events I have had at Somerset DGC. That being said I have played in a few of his tournaments and have not been that impressed, with the exception of his night tournament in October (he gets a Keg and your entry fee gets you a cup a glow disc and some lights for $25 or $30).
I think it comes down to the fact that people who would run these events "better" have full time jobs and don't have the time to do something that will probably loses money in the long run. I also know that TD's get burnt out... it is a thank-less job for the most part. You always hear about bad tournaments but not so much about good ones and the TD's take the most abuse.
The MFA should have been more involved in planing AM Worlds. I was on the planing team when the bid was put in and did some stuff with them 2 years ago and then the lines of communication broke down and I moved farther north and didn't have time to help more (I wish I could have).
The tournament may not have run the way people wanted it to and most of the blame may be on the TD's head, but take a step back and think about how much time it takes and how much BS a TD has to put up with.
If some of you think you can do better get involved and sacrifice your time and money to make things the way you think they should be. I think bagging on a TD to the existent that has happened with this tournament is kinda ridiculous. I had a good time shooting photos and thought the final 9 (only rounds I watched in person) went fairly well.
I think it comes down to the fact that people who would run these events "better" have full time jobs and don't have the time to do something that will probably loses money in the long run. I also know that TD's get burnt out... it is a thank-less job for the most part. You always hear about bad tournaments but not so much about good ones and the TD's take the most abuse.
The MFA should have been more involved in planing AM Worlds. I was on the planing team when the bid was put in and did some stuff with them 2 years ago and then the lines of communication broke down and I moved farther north and didn't have time to help more (I wish I could have).
The tournament may not have run the way people wanted it to and most of the blame may be on the TD's head, but take a step back and think about how much time it takes and how much BS a TD has to put up with.
If some of you think you can do better get involved and sacrifice your time and money to make things the way you think they should be. I think bagging on a TD to the existent that has happened with this tournament is kinda ridiculous. I had a good time shooting photos and thought the final 9 (only rounds I watched in person) went fairly well.
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