The Hammer
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Testers ≠ sponsored athletes
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** Official MVP Q&A - Answers **
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Testers ≠ sponsored athletes
missed the point. hes more than qualified to TEST a product no one said use it in a tournament. Lots of companies test others to compare how they stack up. some even make commercials/ad's of it. If there is $ on the line obviously its not ever going to be objective.
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He can throw it, and test it I'm sure. I highly doubt he is free to advertise another companies products....i.e. posting reviews on the internet. However, I'm not privy to the details of his contract.
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I want that TeeBird with the overmold.
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If MVP products are as great as people claim, they should put some of their staunchest critics on the test team. Honestly, who would you believe more; a positive review from someone like VOR/myself/other MVP critics, or a glowing review from in4d or Mike C? I'm not calling into question their honestly. I'm just saying that winning over your critics speaks louder than winning over your existing fan base.
ZAMson
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ZJ's sponsored by Legacy and his day job at DN requires objective evaluation of flight characteristics. They added him as a tester and he posts unbiased reviews here prior to release. It's just like telling someone who walks into the pro shop about a new disc. He doesn't even have to like the disc to tell people pros/cons.
I agree but also why I have no desire to be on the tester team. I'll review the products as I see fit and throw them. Did the same when I threw lat and discraft a lot and always commented on new discs or threads as molds made my bag. I think "tester" is more of a marketing person than actual feedback on design for MVP. They have people inside which I think are more than capable of providing feedback well before products are released (obviously with how they are handled)
Not sure it does any good to have someone like you as a tester as anyone can try the discs and make a judgment without benefit to MVP. Vibram street/tester team is a good example. Not sure those people leave the Vibram threads.
Not sure it does any good to have someone like you as a tester as anyone can try the discs and make a judgment without benefit to MVP. Vibram street/tester team is a good example. Not sure those people leave the Vibram threads.
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Fair enough
The way MVP phrased their answer does read like they are filling their tester team with fan-boys, though. If that isn't the case, then bravo.
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I have given ZAM plenty of honest and constructive reviews about MVP products/discs I don't like. In most of my MVP reviews I'll list the strengths and weaknesses of a disc. I would think giving constructive criticism privately to an MVP employee is more productive for improving their brand than openly hating on a product.
tbird888
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This is my thinking. I have thrown (and bag) every disc I can get my hands on. I don't care what manufacturer made them, and I try to give honest reviews/recommendations of every disc I've thrown when asked about them. That's why I find myself arguing with people in disc recommendation threads who only recommend the manufacturers' discs to which they're heavily biased.
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I'm not really sure who I am sponsored by these days haha
opcorn:. Need to play more competitive golf to get back in that game. went from 990 to 971 zj1002
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Also...remember my opinion on the Shock the first time I held it. What did I say about it before I even threw it?
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That's great. I'm not advocating a public bashing of their less-than-stellar molds. However, I do think that airing some of the cons in a constructive manner would be a breath of fresh-air in the MVP threads. It seems like whenever something non-positive is mentioned, the offender is shouted down as being ignorant, or a "hater". Contrary to what some might think, that isn't a positive atmosphere. Open and honest reviews should be welcomed. Otherwise, we end up in an "the emperor isn't wearing clothes" situation.
ZAMson
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A range of armed fans and a few professional evaluators get some free plastic prior to release to get info and impressions out there.
Fightmaestros like yourself, VoTP, etc get to read these impressions and fight over them -- that's the greatest gift MVP could send you kissyface
Fightmaestros like yourself, VoTP, etc get to read these impressions and fight over them -- that's the greatest gift MVP could send you
kissyface
Typically, a company will measure those sorts of things through sales numbers. MVP is obviously growing, so I'd say it's pretty clear they are winning people over.
Toro71
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They did say "accurate" supportive reviews, lol.
They're trying to sell frisbees, not get a PhD in physics. Why would they send a new disc to somebody who doesn't like their product? Why, for that matter, would somebody who doesn't like MVP discs even want to be bothered with "testing" a new mold?
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I don't think he is suggesting adding people that already dislike MVP to the tester team. I think he is suggesting using people that don't have the super-fan bias.
ZAMson
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So the complaint that comes from this Q&A is that MVP hasn't sent free pre-release product to their most dedicated trolls.
Success.
Success.
:clap: That's awesome...
zj1002
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Wheres my MVP lid damnit
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