[Question] For open upshots, which disc and line do you choose to throw?

[notroman]

If I can spike it, I will throw the spike hyzer most of the time. There are days where I try to prove to myself that I can just as easily throw a putter or a mid at it. I regret it often.

This is up to 350ft... Anything beyond 350 I don't really consider an approach anymore.

 

[Pbmercil]

I just came here to make sure the Uli video was posted, cuz thats where its at.

I also use a jump putt as an upshot occasionaly. Sometimes even though a shot may be out of putting range a jump putt is a great way to park it.

Ive also started throwing more spike hyzers for upshots lately with my RDG scale. I dont thjnk its the best approach but the scale is such a chain seeker I Gotta give it a run

 

[Aim For The Chains]

something to realize with the Uli video is throwing a nose up straight shot is just causing the disc to hyzer out. Its really no difference than throwing a hyzer line but you have to worry more about what disc, release angle and wind. Its a very simple and effective technique but I would argue not the most consistent. All those different flight paths from players illustrate that pretty well IMO even though they are landing (sometimes) near the basket.

 

[PMantle]

something to realize with the Uli video is throwing a nose up straight shot is just causing the disc to hyzer out. Its really no difference than throwing a hyzer line but you have to worry more about what disc, release angle and wind.

What? They are nothing alike.

 

[runningDoc]

something to realize with the Uli video is throwing a nose up straight shot is just causing the disc to hyzer out. Its really no difference than throwing a hyzer line but you have to worry more about what disc, release angle and wind. Its a very simple and effective technique but I would argue not the most consistent. All those different flight paths from players illustrate that pretty well IMO even though they are landing (sometimes) near the basket.

and at 1:55 mark of the video he tries to demonstrate a "bad shot"... uses plain old hyzer and ends up being the best shot done that whole demonstration

I loved that Uli video when I first saw it... and I'll say it again its an effective method but you need to use a more over stable putter to make it more consistent. I got into a lot of trouble doing the wrist above elbow when trying a 100ft upshot with a beat in aviar/nova/dart where it would just turn into a pure anny line.

Also its hard to follow through properly when your feet are presently sunk into 5-10inches of snow

 

[Aim For The Chains]

What? They are nothing alike.

Trust me, a nose up flat shot is a stall out hyzer. I promise.

 

[PMantle]

Trust me, a nose up flat shot is a stall out hyzer. I promise.

It's a stall out anny. Besides, a hyzer line will require some room right. What he is doing does not.

 

[runningDoc]

Trust me, a nose up flat shot is a stall out hyzer. I promise.

kind of like how a hyzerflip is a condensed S-curve right?

 

[Aim For The Chains]

helix I think would be a better term and a hyzerflip a possible technique to achieve that flight.

 

[in4d]

I'm better at just throwing a straight wizard shot, than trying to hyzer it in there and avoid skipping past the basket. I might even put a touch of *gasp* anhyzer on a wizard inside 100.

Depending on the disc, angle, and height you can easily prevent skip on a hyzer line.

Generally, Low line on a slight hyzer will give you more skip (depending on the surface the disc hits), high line on a hyzer will stall more at the end and stick where it hits. Disc choice has influence too, wider rims like to skip easier, where as a beaded putter or ghost or roc wont want to skip as easy.

 

[gcr_russell]

Up to 140-50' I'm throwing my Atom on a modified fan grip straight at the basket head days. From 150-290 I'm throwing a hyzer with my watermelon Envy. Above that I'm throwing my resistor or Motion on a big hyzer high enough to not have much movement after hitting the ground.

 

[ThinAir]

It's a stall out anny. Besides, a hyzer line will require some room right. What he is doing does not.

No such thing...not to be confused with a slow(putter) anhyzer that pans out.

 

[ThinAir]

Trust me, a nose up flat shot is a stall out hyzer. I promise.

Absolutely

 

[PMantle]

Absolutely

This is objectively wrong, and not an issue over which reasonable minds can differ.

 

[ThinAir]

This is objectively wrong, and not an issue over which reasonable minds can differ.

No, it's true...and the reason you see nose-up throws stall and hyzer out

 

[Dan Ensor]

something to realize with the Uli video is throwing a nose up straight shot is just causing the disc to hyzer out. Its really no difference than throwing a hyzer line but you have to worry more about what disc, release angle and wind. Its a very simple and effective technique but I would argue not the most consistent. All those different flight paths from players illustrate that pretty well IMO even though they are landing (sometimes) near the basket.

It's a lot different than the hyzer line. While a "nose down" hyzer has net lift of 0 (ish), this shot has quite a bit of positive lift. Positive lift means there's little chance of significant energy being retained by the disc at landing.

You can use this technique throwing hyzers, anhyzers, or relatively flat angles.

 

[MrDarkHorse]

Opto Pure on a very slight hyzer.

 

[PMantle]

No, it's true...and the reason you see nose-up throws stall and hyzer out

A nose up hyzer goes left from the get go.

 

[ThinAir]

A nose up hyzer goes left from the get go.

There's a big difference between a hyzer that's on line and penetrating forward to the end, and a nose-up stall out. I'm sure you've seen this.

 

[PMantle]

There's a big difference between a hyzer that's on line and penetrating forward to the end, and a nose-up stall out. I'm sure you've seen this.

Yes I have. It's an anny lol.