rakamkram
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This is the USDGC we're talking about here! You would think they would be covering all the rounds live.
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This is the USDGC we're talking about here! You would think they would be covering all the rounds live.
Why? Live coverage is expensive. Frankly I'd rather see the money they'd spend on live early round coverage put in the purse for the players or put into making the late round coverage better and more expansive (like covering multiple cards at once).
Isnt this like saying. "Man, its really expensive to put a football game on TV. Until the playoffs, I would rather they save the money, pay the players more and just spend a lot on the Superbowl. "
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The could probably hire a better dancing shark in that scenario...
Not at all. Football makes money. Broadcasting every game makes money for all involved, enough to cover the expense and line pockets (players, coaches, execs, networks, etc). No reason at all to sacrifice anything.
NO ONE is making money from disc golf broadcasts. It's a net loss for all, so why blow whatever the budget might be on 4 rounds of mediocre live coverage when it could be spent on 2 rounds of better live coverage? Especially if there are options, cheaper options, to bring the early rounds to viewers.
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It's true - I try to tune into the live stream at work on the Wed/Thurs because I can, but it's spotty and can't always watch. I try to watch so that I can know the drama going into Friday and especially Saturday. Friday I may or may not watch the whole thing.
Saturday I clear the couch, pull up the stream on the big screen,
opcorn: have friends over :hfive: we opcorn: and :clap: and enjoy a social sporting event :thmbup:The quality of the European Open coverage at the end was outstanding. If we had a 45 minute video wrap up (like extended sports center) covering the day's action around 8-9 PM and a great
opcorn: worthy broadcast Saturday for the final, I would look forward to that much more than a bouncy camera walking down the fairway following Crazy breathe into his mic (seriously just ride a golf cart )Dana
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For those that missed it- http://www.youtube.com/user/smashboxxtv/live
JT is the first guest, not sure if the downloadable version will have the audio issues fixed up. JT had to skype back in through his phone and the audio was a little low.
JT is the first guest, not sure if the downloadable version will have the audio issues fixed up. JT had to skype back in through his phone and the audio was a little low.
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http://www.pdga.com/media/policy
So who is considered the 'host'
The property owner or the headline sponsor?
I'm not a lawyer but something doesn't seem consistent
So who is considered the 'host'
The property owner or the headline sponsor?
I'm not a lawyer but something doesn't seem consistent
Why can't it be both? In the USDGC's case, Winthrop University (property owner) AND Innova (tournament owner). My assumption is "host" in terms of the PDGA media policy refers to the person(s) operating the tournament, be it an individual TD, a club, or a business. And if that person(s) does not own the course property, they have worked out their own agreement with that party in terms of rights and privileges.
You known those guys have actual day jobs right? That they aren't just available 24/7?
I'm guessing most are taking time off to travel and film the USDGC, no?
rakamkram
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It just seemed to me like this is possibly the most highly anticipated event of the year. I figured someone must be going to record the early rounds
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If the pdga owns the media rights wouldn't it be up to them to discuss with the property owner who gets to film what and when? What I'm getting at is I doubt many TDs discuss media production with the property owners to begin with. I don't think that should be a responsibility of a TD....hence how can the pdga or a TD really delegate who can and cannot film a tournament if the property owner is not aware in the first place? I'm not saying this is happening at the usdgc because those discussions may have taken place.
I know there is very little money floating around in the first place, but if there is any money to be had. The landowner should be made aware of it...at the very least. If the landowner is not made aware of this and there is an issue when someone who films is told by the pdga or a TD that they need to stop IMO it will just cause issues that would have been avoidable if there was the right communication from the start.
And the post you initially quoted says that there will be Youtube crews on site (Jomez and Disc Eye mentioned specifically) and it's very likely they'll film the early rounds. They just won't be live (these guys never are).
I'm sure there will be early round coverage. But only live the last 2 days.
From what JT was saying last night it seems to me that this will be a pretty awesome setup. I'm stoked to see how it turns out.
rakamkram
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Of course it did. My first post was (apparently) just the crazy hopes of an anxious fan
Did you read the policy you linked to? The PDGA does not own media rights for non-PDGA-owned majors.
Considering the USDGC just released their event media policy for public consumption, its safe to assume they've secured all permissions necessary as far as Winthrop University is concerned. If Winthrop University has media rights policies for events held on their campus by outside parties (such as Innova or the PDGA), then their venue use agreements will include that. Otherwise, the rights belong to the event, not the venue.
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I wasn't referring to the usdgc..
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No I missed that part..thanks...and again I wasn't referring to just the usdgc
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The USDGC Crew (the worker bees in setting up the course) is almost done setting the top ropes and the bottom string as long as we can avoid the predicted rain (Thursday AM looks OK, the afternoon looks wetter). Still more refinements to be done, but we are ahead of where we've been the past 5 years.
If you are practicing or just wanting to play the course with the OB defined, there are 2 things. First--do not step ON the top rope (step over it); offenders will be punished to 5 days of slinging mulch next year. Second--there may still be worker bees on the course doing more refinements, we generally recognize players descending on our work area and stand aside to critique your throws and usually wave players through to take a breather; just don't throw onto us unless we wave you through; offenders may find their disc grip locked into the lake.
Paramount, respect the course and the workers.
If you are practicing or just wanting to play the course with the OB defined, there are 2 things. First--do not step ON the top rope (step over it); offenders will be punished to 5 days of slinging mulch next year
. Second--there may still be worker bees on the course doing more refinements, we generally recognize players descending on our work area and stand aside to critique your throws and usually wave players through to take a breather; just don't throw onto us unless we wave you through; offenders may find their disc grip locked into the lake.Paramount, respect the course and the workers.
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