2015 United States Disc Golf Championship

[Pbmercil]

Whelp. If anyone is curious to what a semi decent am player can shoot on gold I was 17 over today and felt pretty good about it. I even have the arm to throw mostly the same shots as the pros too. That course is so stinking hard.

I was an inch away from clearing the road on the McBeth spike hyzer route on 888. So stinking close

 

[cjman]

Whelp. If anyone is curious to what a semi decent am player can shoot on gold I was 17 over today and felt pretty good about it. I even have the arm to throw mostly the same shots as the pros too. That course is so stinking hard.

I was an inch away from clearing the road on the McBeth spike hyzer route on 888. So stinking close

Isn't it much harder than it looks? The greens are small! And the layups are also small.

 

[turbine712]

soooooooo ... did the distance showcase happen? or get rescheduled?

Alex Geisinger from Minnesota won the distance compition with a throw of 739 feet. Simon Lisotte came in second at 729 feet.
Alex was in it until the final round when he kinda blew up. Finished 22nd. He ane his buddy Noah Meinstima ( 4th in Performance Div.) represented Minnesota with great class.

 

[Pbmercil]

Isn't it much harder than it looks? The greens are small! And the layups are also small.

So hard. So many holes I was OB twice by inches both times. I've played plenty of course where 6 inches is the difference between a birdie and a par, or par and a bogey. This is the first course I've ever played where 6 inches is the difference between a birdie and a bogey at best.

I actually played way better on the back 9 then the front, which is super backwards.

 

[JC17393]

Alex Geisinger from Minnesota won the distance compition with a throw of 739 feet. Simon Lisotte came in second at 729 feet.
Alex was in it until the final round when he kinda blew up. Finished 22nd. He ane his buddy Noah Meinstima ( 4th in Performance Div.) represented Minnesota with great class.

Heartman was asking about the Distance Showcase where they throw over the lake after the conclusion of the 4th round. It was cancelled per the USDGC twitter.

 

[Pbmercil]

Here is 13s fairway when I played it.

There is so much irony in this picture. One of the most well known signature holes in disc golf is a literal drainage ditch. I love this sport

 

[Dr.Smooth]

any distance vids.

so rick officially had proclaimed paul his nemesis. next disc- socki close, a few strokes short of being number one.

ouch....

 

[heartman]

Heartman was asking about the Distance Showcase where they throw over the lake after the conclusion of the 4th round. It was cancelled per the USDGC twitter.

thanks

... and laaaaame

 

[ToddL]

I was actually surprised that play was not suspended. Hole 10 was unplayable and Hole 11 was very close. On hole 10 the teepad was literally 6 inches underwater. I had to take a picture because I have never seen anything like that. The performance flight endured some of the worst conditions I have ever see. The left side of Hole 11's fairway was a rushing stream of water. Hole 12's fairway had a rushing stream as well.

Rushing? Not so much, but it certainly was a lot of water. There was enough water in a lot of places to ruin casual relief. Doss and McBeth had a conversation on hole 12 about McBeth's spot. "Yea, it's casual water, but when you take relief in a straight line from the basket you're still in the water." The bottom of the green on hole 11 was similar. If you took relief your spot would probably be OB, so you're stuck playing from the water.

Isn't it much harder than it looks? The greens are small! And the layups are also small.

It's a very strange course. For the most part, a decent player should be able to score par on most holes with just a midrange and a putter. Safe, safe, safe, putt. The hardest part of the course is when you try to score birdies. Go for birdie, end up with bogeys. And the course is completely unrelenting. You have to take every single shot on every single hole as seriously as you can. There's danger on every single shot.

It might be the dumbest hole on the course in my opinion. There's some serious Russell Schwarz high on crack design elements on that one. It's a strange hole to play, basically I just hope to get down the tunnel to the bend and hope a random tree isn't in my way for the 2nd shot. Then the pin placement is just, uhhhhh.

I think 15 is pretty simple. 320 ft straight through a generous fairway to the corner, then a fairly simple 200 ft to the opening to the green. If you miss the opening, you won't make your putt. If you hit the opening, you'll have a tap-in.

 

[Pbmercil]

I think 15 is pretty simple. 320 ft straight through a generous fairway to the corner, then a fairly simple 200 ft to the opening to the green. If you miss the opening, you won't make your putt. If you hit the opening, you'll have a tap-in.

I think 15s green is fine. The shot is to get even With the pin. Even with the pin you can be 40-60 feet out and still have a clean look at a putt. The goal is to not be short or long. Execute the shot and you'll get a look. Don't execute and you may or may not have a putt, but that's on you for being short or long. I'm fine with that

 

[Pbmercil]

It's a very strange course. For the most part, a decent player should be able to score par on most holes with just a midrange and a putter. Safe, safe, safe, putt. The hardest part of the course is when you try to score birdies. Go for birdie, end up with bogeys. And the course is completely unrelenting. You have to take every single shot on every single hole as seriously as you can. There's danger on every single shot.

The problem is that even if you play super conservative for par you still have to execute at a really high level to get those pars. There is zero room for missed putts or less then parked approaches. And even still your probably going to go OB at least a couple of times, but If you stick with that game plan you'll never have birdies to take those strokes back. For performance flight that is probably the right strategy tho.

 

[grodney]

The biggest thing watching the last two days...realizing how much better the sport would be with stand and deliver**.

I have been an advocate of S&D, but what did you say that makes you say that?

From an outsider's perspective, it just looks hokey and inexact* to put down a mini and then do a full run-up. It hit home the most on holes like #5 and #11 and #13, or if the first shot hit something early and then the players gets to recover with a full run-up in the fairway.

Second, stand&deliver forces the players to demonstrate a separate skill --- that is, we've already seen them drive with a full run-up, and we see them putt, so let's also separate the fairway shot, instead of just repeating the driving skill.

These two things would make it more legitimate and compelling to the viewer.

And from a competition perspective, these long multi-shot holes would be so much more challenging with a forced S&D. Well, they'd be more challenging for people who can't S&D very well. So, you know, having more skills gains you an advantage --- just the way it should be.


*As players, we know that the player is SUPPOSED to be very exact (on LOP within 30cm), but we also know it doesn't happen sometimes.

**To avoid confusion: My definition of S&D allows a follow-through after release --- just no run-up allowed.

 

[Jenga54]

So, what happened to the distance showcase? did they do it the next day?

 

[tbird888]

So, what happened to the distance showcase? did they do it the next day?

Five posts above yours.

 

[Jenga54]

i was thinking about buying a couple discs for this - so did all those donation discs get signed, do the people get all of them since there aren't any in the water...

 

[brutalbrutus]

From an outsider's perspective, it just looks hokey and inexact* to put down a mini and then do a full run-up. It hit home the most on holes like #5 and #11 and #13, or if the first shot hit something early and then the players gets to recover with a full run-up in the fairway.

Second, stand&deliver forces the players to demonstrate a separate skill --- that is, we've already seen them drive with a full run-up, and we see them putt, so let's also separate the fairway shot, instead of just repeating the driving skill.

These two things would make it more legitimate and compelling to the viewer.

And from a competition perspective, these long multi-shot holes would be so much more challenging with a forced S&D. Well, they'd be more challenging for people who can't S&D very well. So, you know, having more skills gains you an advantage --- just the way it should be.


*As players, we know that the player is SUPPOSED to be very exact (on LOP within 30cm), but we also know it doesn't happen sometimes.

**To avoid confusion: My definition of S&D allows a follow-through after release --- just no run-up allowed.

What about being able to step into a shot? Back foot stays planted but the front foot moves...

 

[DiscChainBasket18]

When the video teams got to the hospitality area, it looked like an episode of The Walking Dead. They looked exhausted. Whatever they're being paid, it's not enough.

Here's Round Three coverage from The Charlotte Observer:
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/other-sports/article38544087.html

Mike

It is a lot more difficult than people can imagine! Luckily the guys in the media group really enjoy doing this type of thing! Glutton for punishment comes to mind. Thank you to all who support us! HH

 

[DiscChainBasket18]

Wonder if they'll release hatchetharrys second round of lead group. Crazy they had two on Mcbeth and hatchet on lead card.

I was happy to have the lead card as you can imagine!

 

[grodney]

What about being able to step into a shot? Back foot stays planted but the front foot moves...

Not in favor.

 

[Streets]

Hatchet, were you filming the MJ/Climo card the last day?