KoolaidOverdose
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Is there anywhere in the rules that states the owner of a private course can supersede and/or deliberately disregard PDGA rules while running a sanctioned league?
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Private Course Sanctioned League Question
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Depends on which rules you're talking about. Leagues specifically are not beholden to the rules regarding alcohol possession/consumption (assuming it's otherwise legal on the course), for example. Also, since payouts are not reported for leagues, amateurs can technically be paid out in cash and not lose their amateur status.
But the rules of play when it comes to the game itself (and not the things surrounding it) shouldn't be disregarded or superseded unless express permission is granted by the PDGA tour manager, whether it is a league or a full-on tournament.
KoolaidOverdose
Newbie
one of the rules I had questioned was 3.1 D.
The other was picking up another player's disc during the round (it was a drop-in, but that doesn't matter during rated rounds).
Because I questioned these rules, I have been banned from playing on the course or in the league.
I can understand the owner's ability to ban people from his private property. But to exclude a player from a league for simply questioning the rules seems a little over the top.
The other was picking up another player's disc during the round (it was a drop-in, but that doesn't matter during rated rounds).
Because I questioned these rules, I have been banned from playing on the course or in the league.
I can understand the owner's ability to ban people from his private property. But to exclude a player from a league for simply questioning the rules seems a little over the top.
3.1 D is probably another one that leagues can be more lax on, along with plenty of other stuff in the Competition Manual, though the best person to answer that question is the Tour Manager.
There should be no deviation from the Rules of Play, however. That includes allowing "gimmes".
From the sounds of it, it's not the kind of place I'd want to play in the first place. It's one thing to be generally lax about the rules, private course or not, league or not. But the apparent "how dare you?" response to your questions, unless you were being a dick about it, seems egregious. You're probably better off.
There should be no deviation from the Rules of Play, however. That includes allowing "gimmes".
From the sounds of it, it's not the kind of place I'd want to play in the first place. It's one thing to be generally lax about the rules, private course or not, league or not. But the apparent "how dare you?" response to your questions, unless you were being a dick about it, seems egregious. You're probably better off.
KoolaidOverdose
Newbie
I have been 100% civil with him. Here is his response to me verbatim: "Hi [name redacted], apparently you misunderstood where you played disc golf yesterday. This is my course, on my private property and I make the rules here. I decide who is welcome and who is not. You are not.
filobedo
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I have wondered if a private course owner hosting a Ctier sanctioned tournament on their property can not allow someone to register for the event because they dislike the person or they are a known trouble maker or is everyone allowed on the property regardless of an event on private or public property per the sanctioning agreement? If it were an invitational event you could get around this.
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I believe they can.
KoolaidOverdose
Newbie
My thoughts exactly.
KoolaidOverdose
Newbie
I'm more than happy to part ways with their league, but the biggest gripe I have is that these people started this league 3 weeks ago for the sole purpose of gaining enough rounds to qualify for Am Worlds next year. If they're not abiding by PDGA rules, then a.) they shouldn't be running a sanctioned league, and b.) their rounds should not be counted towards anything. Thoughts?
filobedo
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The league should be disbanded for being started to get into Worlds alone. There are more than enough other events to play besides Leagues to qualify. The qualifications for Worlds should be minimum points plus minimum tournaments (6-8) instead of having people getting in for playing one event such as Bowling Green and now people getting in due to playing only a League is absurd.
Well, a league is worth fewer points than a typical C-tier (the multiplier ranges from 0.25 to 2.5 at leagues, 1 to 5 at C-tiers)...for 6-10 rounds worth of play instead of 2-4 rounds. No one is earning an invitation to Worlds strictly through league play even if they play 7 leagues a week.
Crap I wanted to play this league.
And no you cannot be banned from playing in a PDGA league.
Contact the PDGA tour manager
And no you cannot be banned from playing in a PDGA league.
Contact the PDGA tour manager
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You can't be banned from a PDGA event per say, but you can be banned from a place and would be trespassing.
This is why I haven't played in any of the local leagues. There are too many rules which are not enforced.
The most common being dogs in groups.
And unfortunately the PDGA has not been doing a good job handling the situations which have arised either.
The PDGA leagues need to stop. They are not being run in the same way other PDGA events would be.
The most common being dogs in groups.
And unfortunately the PDGA has not been doing a good job handling the situations which have arised either.
The PDGA leagues need to stop. They are not being run in the same way other PDGA events would be.
I do recall an a tier a few years back where a player was kicked out of the round for courtesy violations and asked to never come back to the private course.
And I know of a public course where a player has been banned for drinking.
So I suppose a player could be banned from a private course PDGA league.
But that player could also report the TD and players for allowing dogs, flipping discs, gimmes, etc.
I really wish the PDGA leagues worked differently. I think the rounds should be rated, but not included in your ratings.
And I know of a public course where a player has been banned for drinking.
So I suppose a player could be banned from a private course PDGA league.
But that player could also report the TD and players for allowing dogs, flipping discs, gimmes, etc.
I really wish the PDGA leagues worked differently. I think the rounds should be rated, but not included in your ratings.
brutalbrutus
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Arent league rounds half weighted?
