That is excellent thanks are the Soft E close to N or more like soft N for hss at 20'?
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[MVP] MVP Disc Sports (Official Thread) (Part IV)
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That is excellent thanks are the Soft E close to N or more like soft N for hss at 20'?
I would say that the Soft E is pretty close to the stability of N but with way more glide. Perhaps because of the plastic I am able to grip and rip every so slightly more than a Neutron but I can get it to go further. But like N, Soft E is dead straight with minimal fade. I can hyzer flip Soft E easier than N which I would have to throw flat or with a very slight hyzer to flat. Both have a .5 to 1.0 HSS compared to Soft N for me. Soft N is the most stable except for the rare Proton Envies that has a significant bead. I have one that is the most stable of my Envy lot, but I don't expect to find another one anytime soon.
Yeah I gave up my worn N regrettably and my soft N happily for that Whitler.. I found the soft N less hss and more LSS than my proton.. Sounds like soft E is for me. I can deal with less fade happily but the front end stability is what I dropped my Rhyno for. I need to try some before I get addicted to my soft E atom.
Anyone use the Atom as a windy day putter?
Bahh stop making new discs mvp, I want to bag all the putters!
Anyone use the Atom as a windy day putter?
Bahh stop making new discs mvp, I want to bag all the putters!
Have you seen any of Matt Dollar's videos on YouTube? He throws the Soft E Envy off the tee and for putting. You can get a sense there of what it can do. Many of his shots are money.
ThomasOrion
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Atom as windy putter sounds devastating. I use a RDG Serpent or Element Iridium for windy putts - Atom would be risky - unless its a short stab in the chains youre going for, I can see the speed and somewhat low glide of the atom be fine for short windy putts, but anything over 15-20 ft would not work well for me. Wind for me = Serpent or Iridium
That was my experience so far up short it's a disc I want to find bag space for kinda like the Proxy but I hate packing one trick ponies, it's the new toy.... That's a space I usually fill with my Tangent but the Vertex has been surprisingly good, solid short range stable, I thought the Axis would have been better.
The Vertex is weird.. For something that understable it sure loses height on a 45 degree downhill and fights against a headwind... it helps that it's 10g heavier then my putters.
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Seriously? It's the first disc they made. They named it the Ion. Maybe you've heard of it.
I would have thought the Envy filled that bill too but I suppose it is shallow. Hmmm wide diameter deeper Envy.. Better go back to the mvp feedback thread.
So seriously which MVP / Axiom product is the best putter for wind? What are other gyro heads using? I've got a summer tourney series and a few courses are windy!
So seriously which MVP / Axiom product is the best putter for wind? What are other gyro heads using? I've got a summer tourney series and a few courses are windy!
wolfey
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The Envy has always worked fine for me in the wind. If it's too windy for an Envy flip that sucker upside down, close your eyes and pull the trigger!
wolfmandragon
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The Wizard is a deep dish putter. The Anode is the same height as a Wizard. The difference between an Anode and Ion is the Ion is beaded.
I am guessing you want a pop top instead of a deep dish. Try Plasma plastic, sometimes you can find pop tops in those.
If it were any deeper wouldn't it be considered a lid? You talking polecat depth? I guess the dagger and the shield are pretty deep as well
A deep wide Envy that's what they need to make next, the super lid.. Put a DGCR stamp on it and call it our disc. Use fission plastic in white and a pink or yellow rim. They could call it the...?
On a similar note I couldn't resist any longer ordered a set of three soft electron Envy's all 166g you can never have too many putters.. I will be checking the mail the wife might not agree
On a similar note I couldn't resist any longer ordered a set of three soft electron Envy's all 166g you can never have too many putters.. I will be checking the mail the wife might not agree
I putt with an Ion for all my putts. Never had any issues in the wind, but I don't see a ton of it in the Charlotte area.
It was windier when I lived up north. Ions still did good. Envy does a little better in a strong wind.
More about technique than which mold IMO. Knowing how to play the wind is vital, e.g. putting high with a tailwind and low into a headwind.
I'm a p2 Guy. I don't consider that a lid. The electron ions feel a tad shallower than judges in electron. I just need that dagger,p2 depth. Something you can eat oatmeal out of.
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Wut?
And wut? Never..
Do you people actually throw MVP discs around here or just talk BS off 1 or 2 molds bought?
wolfmandragon
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Do you know how to have a conversation or are insults all you bring to the table?
Plasma molds up with a higher dome and you know it does.. Quit being juvenile.
I could see that. The P2 has a unique high shoulder rise which I can see in the hand it feels deeper. I have one to compare. You can still eat quite a bit of oatmeal out of an Ion. At least enough for a well balanced breakfast
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