What do you think a scooby is? Also, what's the weirdest technique you use?

[tmaniac]

From what I can tell online there are at least a couple of things called a scooby...

The "old school" version is (correct me if I am wrong) basically a vertical backhand roller starting with the bottom of the flight plate at your ear.

I've used this shot a couple of times recently to save par. I've been in schnarb and had a small, low, narrow window, with the basket to the right and this is the PERFECT shot for it. Maybe others don't use it because they don't get in trouble as much. :gross:

What do the rest of you think a scooby is?

Also, this got me thinking about novelty shots... what are the rarest/weirdest shots you all use?

cheers,
tmaniac

 

[Stardoggy]

Turbo putts. I use them quite a bit.

 

[HyzerUniBomber]

That's what I think of as a scooby.

I don't throw them.

I wouldn't call them weird, but I do throw the following less traditional shots quite a bit:

Regular thumbers
Non-flipping thumbers (high putter thumber that is thrown slow and lands on top of the disc)
Low skip thumbers (like a baseball pitch)
BH and FH Skip shots
Elevator or stall shots
Rollers (FH and BH)

 

[slowplastic]

-FH rollers as approaches around trees/out of trouble (once every couple rounds)
-grenade shot (what the video HUB posted is on...very occasionally but I like it)
-thumber...very occasionally as placement or to get out of jails
-turbo over bushes when necessary
-skip shots often with Firebird

I thought a Scooby was like a grenade shot (same grip) but with a normal backhand plane. I kind of like doing that with a putter, I can throw the putter upside down pretty hard and it will fly a Firebird flight path but only 100-150' feet...straight to big fade and dies. I need to practice them more but it's an interesting way to throw short overstable shots. Fun, but I need to see if it will be useful. I imagine it could be if the basket is 150' away and there's a tree 30' in front, and not enough ceiling to let a hyzer sweep in, but I also don't want to power down a Firebird with all of the weird things that can happen with that shot.

 

[Jenga54]

this is painful. What do you "think" it is? Like the Telephone game? let's not make stuff up.


It comes from Ultimate. It's called a SCOOBER - also known as a "Scooby" for a nickname

http://www.discace.com/ultimate-frisbee/ultimate-frisbee-throws

3. Scoober
A variant of the forehand throw, the scoober, is similar to the hammer and thrown from a backhand stance. The release of the scoober typically more flat than the release of a hammer but the flight path is very similar to the hammer. Used to throw over defenders, the scoober is usually a short 10 - 20 yard throw. While holding the disc with a forehand grip turn the disc over so it's belly side up, and bring the disc across your body. Lead the throw with your elbow and flick the disc forward.

 

[zenbot]

this is painful. What do you "think" it is? Like the Telephone game? let's not make stuff up.


It comes from Ultimate. It's called a SCOOBER - also known as a "Scooby" for a nickname

http://www.discace.com/ultimate-frisbee/ultimate-frisbee-throws

3. Scoober
A variant of the forehand throw, the scoober, is similar to the hammer and thrown from a backhand stance. The release of the scoober typically more flat than the release of a hammer but the flight path is very similar to the hammer. Used to throw over defenders, the scoober is usually a short 10 - 20 yard throw. While holding the disc with a forehand grip turn the disc over so it's belly side up, and bring the disc across your body. Lead the throw with your elbow and flick the disc forward.

I think the issue is that people call different shots by the same term. We're just exposing the differences and correcting.

For example, I was taught that a Scobby was throwing the disc upside down so it slides on the top of it's flight plate. Perfect for sliding underneath obstacles especially in pine needles, oak leaves, etc. I now know this isn't the original use of the term Scooby.

Similar, do you draw a square around birdies on a score card or circle them? (Or neither)

 

[The Last DJ]

Around here it seems like "Scooby" is a quick give-and-go shovel pass in Ultimate where the disc is thrown chest-height or above and upside-down. I understand it translating to disc golf as any overhand shot with a planned skip at the end of it.

Because my backhand game is poor, I throw overhand more than the average player. It can be from the tee or on the approach. My favorite OH (or "Scooby") discs are the Firebird, Shark, and Wizard. Throwing a putter OH is a newer skill I've picked up on recently but it has helped me out on shorter approaches. Not only is the Scoober good for going over or around obstacles, but planning a skip can help get your disc UNDER obstacles as well.

 

[ejvogie]

 

[Jenga54]

I try to follow tradition and language use - the game has many similar notations from golf, ultimate, and others... so to be as welcoming as possible to new comers I like using the universal terms where they exist. I don't usually circle or box my scorecard, but I do prefer paper/pencil for scoring. And I score a course based on posted par, and not "all 3s" so as to give credit to the designer for having given me par 4s and 5s. I would expect Boxes to be Bogies and Circles to be birdies - but then there are people who circle a score if there was an OB - a "circle 4" so I don't mark anything.

I was thinking that one of the weirdest throws I use would be the flight plate slide - sometimes the best shot is a 25' slide under pine trees. I also enjoy a good 25' forehand roller with a hard counterclockwise movement around things.

 

[Jenga54]

i guess you found someone on the internet that's wrong

 

[ejvogie]

Similar, do you draw a square around birdies on a score card or circle them? (Or neither)

Neither. We circle penalties.

/drift

 

[Jenga54]

 

[Getty]

The Hos video is correct. Ulty players do call the little dink throw over the top a scoober, also. We originally called it a tomahawk or a Hiawatha.

 

[zenbot]

I was thinking that one of the weirdest throws I use would be the flight plate slide - sometimes the best shot is a 25' slide under pine trees.

I also use a variation where I throw a disc upside down hard at the ground to get a nice slide bounce. (Illustration below)

 

[slowplastic]

That looks like it was made in the Mac drawing program I used in elementary school. I doubt MS Paint is capable of such a masterpiece

 

[zenbot]

That looks like it was made in the Mac drawing program I used in elementary school. I doubt MS Paint is capable of such a masterpiece

Oh, well that's where you're wrong.

MSPainters DGCR Social Group

 

[tmaniac]

this is painful. What do you "think" it is? Like the Telephone game? let's not make stuff up.

I'm not making stuff up, I just knew that there were more than shot referred to as scooby/scoober. I was curious what the more popular definition was.

Anyways, I found this on the old Innova website in their glossary of terms... this must have been what gave me the idea originally.

"Scooby Shot - Using a backhand grip, hold the underside of the disc vertically next to your right ear and throw for a RHBH thrower."

Edit: In fact its still on the Innova site here: http://www.innovadiscs.com/home/disc-golf-faq/glossary-of-terms/

 

[Reniger]

A good buddy in one of my leagues exclusively putts overhand. No. Not turbo. Straight up tomahawk driver style, with a putter, from 10' away. Weirdest thing I've seen. But, he's old and it works for him. He drained a 60-70 footer for duece last night doing it. The card blew up.

 

[Lazerface]

In my experience with disc golf people seem to use the "Scooby" term for short overhand shots to get out of trouble. Specifically, when you hold the disc over your head with a high degree of angle so that the bottom of the disc is facing upward (angle depends on the distance - farther away = more vertical angle). Using a overhand (tomahawk) type of grip you toss the disc so that it essentially just does a quarter turn and lands on the flight plate. Very common get out of jail shot. I don't think that is a true "Scooby" it's just a short variation of a tomahawk, but since it does not do a full flip/turn people were calling it a Scooby - may just be regional lingo though.

The "grenade" referenced above was introduced to me as a "knuckler" which is also a great name. If your shoulder cannot withstand tomahawks the grenade is a game changer. Not only can you throw the shot over a vertical obstacle with almost no left/right or right/left motion but it hits the ground with "reverse" spin and sits every time. It's like the pitching wedge of disc golf. I find you have to throw much harder than if you were using a standard grip (of course) and really make sure to aim straight up in the air. Once you get it, it's an amazing shot to have. I know there are a lot of people out there like me who's shoulders are destroyed by even the shortest tomahawk shot.

 

[Lazerface]

Also, thumber rollers for short up and down trouble shots are highly under-utilized in the disc golf community. When you have to work left to right and have nothing in the air it's excellent. Has gotten me out of a ton of trouble. I see a lot of people trying to throw cut forehand rollers which require perfect angle and speed to turn the opposite way of the natural turn. Much easier to let the disc do the work. Certainly harder to generate power as you have to release on the opposite angle of a forehand roller requiring the shot to be thrown in an awkward over the head type of release, so you don't get near as much body/snap into it. But for short up and downs it's a great shot to learn. Takes about 30 minutes - 1 hour in the back yard to get that awkward release down. My local crew always jokes about my thumber roller shot because I always make a spectacle and make sure everyone is aware it's coming.