Grippenripp
* Ace Member *
∆∆this was my source, I tried to locate something about it but got lazy LOL. I hope it isn't. I know it's always going to be niche but it would be nice to have them around forevermore.....
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Building the minimalist bag
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Grippenripp
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Put the first round in with my minimalist set-up. I scored exactly the same as the last time I played but I threw much cleaner shots and less scramble shots. IDK if that had anything to do with my decisions pretty much being made for me and was easy to be confident in my plastic throwing only core molds. Last time I tried this it didn't go so well off the rip and that's why I think I didn't stick to it. Now I am a more sound player (not the best, but better than I was) and my motives are much more thought out than just doing it because I read that I should. Excited to see how this works out.
sonny
Eagle Member
Who cares what is "truly minimal"? What helps you play your best game? What helps you have more fun?
I quit carrying a bag of discs back in 2011. My initial motivation was to increase the fun factor but after a few months of using only a handful of discs, I realized I was playing significantly better golf. I suspect there are multiple factors to this improvement, but I feel the two largest factors are the simplification of decision making and the familiarity one gains when using the very same discs all the time.
You should carry how ever many discs and molds you want, but I firmly believe that less is more when it comes to the number of discs you use.
JeCroisQue
Eagle Member
It's a fun thought experiment. If nobody cares about what is minimal, then why are we even talking about it on an online forum. It's about having discussion. There's 17 pages of responses in this one post alone about minimalism so I'm sure others find it interesting to discuss.
If you believe less is more when it comes to discs, then how can you also believe people should carry as many molds as they want. That statement disagrees with itself.
Personally, I agree with you that the core idea of minimalism is to reduce decision making while still having all shots covered. The more I think about it, the more I come to realize that to actually reduce decision making, minimizing molds is not enough. If I only carry Aviars, Rocs, Teebirds, and Destroyers; but I carry 4 Aviars, 6 Rocs, 5 Teebrids, and 7 destroyers, then am I really making my decision making easier? Probably not.
Grippenripp
* Ace Member *
You should probably have an OS fairway in there like an FD3, FB, Felon etc. And to me personally having my molds in different stages does simplify my game. This requires that you do field work and know your plastic. But for some having something beefy, neutral and flippy in every category is what works. I am not a minimalist but I am trying a five mold setup right now and find that it detracts nothing from my game. I cycle many of the molds in n bag anyway though even when I carry all 10.
Meillo
Eagle Member
@sonny: Great to see you in this thread. I loved to read about your experiences in the I-carry-the-discs-in-my-hand group. *thumbs-up*
sonny
Eagle Member
OK - you got me. Asking "who cares" was a bit harsh. What I was meaning to say is who can really define "truly minimal"? Apparently you can carry over 20 discs and think that it's a minimal bag since there are only four molds. To me, minimal means you are only carrying what you really need. I can carry three discs and make them work for me to cover everything I need. Some folks need an OS putter, an US putter, OS mid, US mid, OS fairway..... you get the idea. So who's to define minimal? Just semantics? Well yeah, I guess so.
I think it's an interesting discussion too and I'm frequently amazed at it all. Check out the link in my signature for a social group I started about extreme minimalism. It's been a couple years since anyone has posted in it, but I check in regularly to see if anyone else wants to talk about using a handful of discs. (and thanks for the kind words Meillo)
Just because I believe playing with the fewest discs you can manage is what works best for me does not mean that's the best method for everyone. It's obvious most players don't agree with using only three or four discs. So I say carry whatever makes you play well and makes you happy. It's not a contradiction - it's just facing reality. True minimalism is obviously not for everyone. I've had plenty of players tell me they wish they could play with a handful of discs but they need the security of having "that" disc for "this" shot. I cannot deny there have been times I would have like to have a Firebird for some shot or another but I just take out my Sidewinder and make it work for what I need. It's forced me to manipulate my throws instead of "letting the disc do the work". Hey - different strokes for different folks. That's all I'm saying.
But when I see a guy pulling a cart full of discs around on a neighborhood pitch and putt course, it makes me laugh out loud.
HarkeyPuck
* Ace Member *
out loud??
HarkeyPuck
* Ace Member *
What if he doesn't feel like taking all of his discs out of his cart as he had played a bigger course the day before??
…asking for a friend
…asking for a friend
Grippenripp
* Ace Member *
When I say minimalism, I mean mold minimalism. I am bagging 5 and there's currently 17 discs in the bag. IDK my take on it is a simplification effort and this does simplify things for me.
I'm going to go ahead and define this to save time going forward.
6 discs or less is officially a minimalist bag.
Spread the word .
I'm on board with the theory that it's beneficial to simplify decision making and get really good with those discs.
Grippenripp
* Ace Member *
Ah, boo! I can't be in the club?? Frowny biscuits.......
HarkeyPuck
* Ace Member *
Mmm… biscuits
broomerang
Double Eagle Member
I don't think I would carry only 6 simply because of the comfort of the Octothorpe. If I was restricted to only 6 it would be these ones. Hell they are pretty much the only 6 I throw on 95% of courses.
S-Line PD
P-Line PD
Sexton Firebird
S-Line FD
Glow MD3
P-Line P2
S-Line PD
P-Line PD
Sexton Firebird
S-Line FD
Glow MD3
P-Line P2
esc1
Eagle Member
Nutsac for my minimalist bag. Its 8, but not heavy and I can fit a small towel in there also
Aviar
Firebird
Envy
Harp
Matrix
FD
Teebird
Destroyer
Sometimes switch in a Verdict depending on the course or wind
Aviar
Firebird
Envy
Harp
Matrix
FD
Teebird
Destroyer
Sometimes switch in a Verdict depending on the course or wind
Brockness Monster
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I am thinking about downsizing some more and grabbing a Nutsac or something similar. So for 6 discs, I would go
K3 Berg(Putt and Approach)
Pro Pig(Drive and Approach)
Champ MD3(Workhorse Mid)
Star Teebird(accurate driving)
Champ Roadrunner(Distance Driving)
Champ Firebird(nuff said)
For 3 in hand, I would go
K3 Berg(Putt, Approach and Drive)
Champ MD3(workhorse, I would actually probably pick up a K3 Kaxe as a tweener)
Champ Roadrunner(Teebird would be nice, but close to MD3 flight)
Alot of champ, so I might need to pick up some Pro or Star for rainy days
K3 Berg(Putt and Approach)
Pro Pig(Drive and Approach)
Champ MD3(Workhorse Mid)
Star Teebird(accurate driving)
Champ Roadrunner(Distance Driving)
Champ Firebird(nuff said)
For 3 in hand, I would go
K3 Berg(Putt, Approach and Drive)
Champ MD3(workhorse, I would actually probably pick up a K3 Kaxe as a tweener)
Champ Roadrunner(Teebird would be nice, but close to MD3 flight)
Alot of champ, so I might need to pick up some Pro or Star for rainy days
JeCroisQue
Eagle Member
Didn't you hear? It was just established that 6 discs or less is a minimalist bag. Your 8 disc bag is no longer minimalist so please stop referring to it as such. You can use the terms quasi-minimalist or post-minimalist to refer to your gargantuan 8 disc nutsac.
Keller
* Ace Member *
Just took my Grip C15 out of the trunk and threw in my Innova standard bag for winter.
I think back pack bags are a pain in the a$$ with more clothes on.
I think back pack bags are a pain in the a$$ with more clothes on.
I think having 5 molds but tons of each would make my decisions more difficult, not easier. I've always thought the advantage of mold minimalism is the similar feel of molds, so likely better execution of the throws.
But isn't this thread more about a truly minimal bag with 5 discs or so? Earlier, someone was talking about that making decisions easier. My problem is that my first decision on any hole is: forehand or backhand? Whether I have 5 or 18 discs doesn't change this decision. Next, it's speed and stability.
For me, I think having a bigger bag usually makes my decisions easier, as long as I don't have a ton of overlap. But I appreciate the exercise of building a minimalist (i.e. 5-6 disc bag), mainly to help you know your game but also with the added benefit of having a good travel bag.
But isn't this thread more about a truly minimal bag with 5 discs or so? Earlier, someone was talking about that making decisions easier. My problem is that my first decision on any hole is: forehand or backhand? Whether I have 5 or 18 discs doesn't change this decision. Next, it's speed and stability.
For me, I think having a bigger bag usually makes my decisions easier, as long as I don't have a ton of overlap. But I appreciate the exercise of building a minimalist (i.e. 5-6 disc bag), mainly to help you know your game but also with the added benefit of having a good travel bag.
