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I agree the NT and DGPT should be merged.
Also agree with Dodge's sentiment that this DGCReview website should've partnered with the PDGA a long time ago to be the official course directory of the PDGA.
I agree the NT and DGPT should be merged.
Also agree with Dodge's sentiment that this DGCReview website should've partnered with the PDGA a long time ago to be the official course directory of the PDGA.
Which is funny, because I would think that now most people would use UDisc as the easiest and best course directory?.
with who in charge? No way would I turn anything over to DGPT based on their track record thus far.
I'd put DGPT in charge. Sure, they still have a lot to learn, but the PDGA wants out of the business of running the NT, and eventually DGPT will take over anyway.
I disagree that UDisc is better or easier to use than DGCR. And even though the courses I've designed are each rated about one star higher on UDisc, I don't really trust UDisc's ratings. Can you find extinct courses on UDisc? I haven't yet.
I'm all for making the DGPT the one tour to talk about. Frees up the PDGA to focus on Majors, maybe even adding more of them for both Pros and Ams. I think with Jeff Spring in charge of the DGPT - someone who has also previously run NTs/Worlds for the PDGA - the tour would be in good hands. It would let the DGPT absorb more high profile events, making it even more appealing to follow and participate in. More/higher profile events on the DGPT will likely draw them more sponsors and make it a more sustainable model.
The only negative that I see from this is the fact that the "Old Model" has to be discarded.
Jeff Spring and the DGPT disavow Dodge's article
Rightly so, IMO. Steve's always been a bit of an agent provocateur. Sometimes to his credit, sometimes not. This feels like one of those not to his credit moments.
I'm not sure that reply was made after reading the article....
Steve isn't proposing the DGPT not work with the PDGA; I think he's advocating working even more closely, by supplanting the NT.
I don't think they should be merged yet. Lets talk again in 2 years.
I'd put DGPT in charge. Sure, they still have a lot to learn, but the PDGA wants out of the business of running the NT, and eventually DGPT will take over anyway.
I appreciate what Steve is saying, and I agree that the PDGA loves fence-sitting in terms of whether to give full-throated support and priority to growing a tour. However, given the lack of financial stability at the DGPT (I know we're saying they're secure now, but they still have to prove it), and the lack of financial danger at the PDGA, it makes sense for both tours to continue and provide enough events to continue the expansion of the pro game alongside the expansion of the amateur game.
I agree with this Jamie. This is the first year under new ownership and management. Which is why I said lets look at this again in 2 years. It could be a different landscape, it might not be.
I agree with a lot of Steve's premises, but the DGPT needs to prove itself first and foremost.
I agree with this Jamie. This is the first year under new ownership and management. Which is why I said lets look at this again in 2 years. It could be a different landscape, it might not be.
I agree with a lot of Steve's premises, but the DGPT needs to prove itself first and foremost.
I recall that Steve originally proposed to take over the NT directly but the PDGA declined and encouraged a proof of concept, hence the birth of the DGPT. Seems like now, Steve wants that original idea re-visited. However, with the change in ownership/management of DGPT, they're in many ways right back at square one in terms of proof of concept. The only person who doesn't recognize that, apparently, is Steve.
In general, in this sport today, there are too many people starting to turn their minds towards contracting opportunities when we still need to be in an expansion mindframe. It's happening in all major decision-making parts of this sport, and it's a mistake. It's too soon.