as mentioned, he had a couple of people there to help with the production explicitly. Not sure if the content that he and Hannah provide is much more than iPhone based video and Hannah editing it and posting it.
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PDGA World Championships 2022
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as mentioned, he had a couple of people there to help with the production explicitly. Not sure if the content that he and Hannah provide is much more than iPhone based video and Hannah editing it and posting it.
Flick Maniac
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Anyone got a link to the interview (video or text) where Ricky apparently says "Worlds doesnt matter that much" or something to that effect?
Dcinmd
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He is in regards to marketing.
Nm. Was thinking mvp open presser, but no, i think it was ultiworld or something like that. Sorry.
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biscoe
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debatable.
Cgkdisc
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Need to return closer to old Worlds course format to revive Worlds status in relation to elite/silver/euro tour events.
Streets
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Lol I don't disagree...he also needs to drop the "WOOOOOOH" lady.
World's used to be THE event of the year. Now it's just another DGPT class stop. It needs to return to the format it was 2015 and prior. That really showed off the best of the best.
biscoe
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I agree with the latter part of this. It's still THE event of the year though.
Pros should be pros at worlds, it is a sport, right? Tote their own gear. Nothing with wheels allowed. Two rounds a day for 3 days, semi cut for 4th day morning, finals cut for 4th day afternoon.
Pare down participants to those of a certain rating or better. 75 or so total seems reasonable. 211 is just plain ridiculous. Let performance that year have some influence on this as well. Would make events more meaningful. Could easily base it off DGPT points, that system is already in place. Maybe a few exemptions for past winners.
No need to have a spread of over 100 strokes between 1st and last over 4 rounds (like in 2022). With fewer participants, certainly easier to get two rounds in a day. Fewer participants means faster rounds as well, with fewer bottlenecks.
Pare down participants to those of a certain rating or better. 75 or so total seems reasonable. 211 is just plain ridiculous. Let performance that year have some influence on this as well. Would make events more meaningful. Could easily base it off DGPT points, that system is already in place. Maybe a few exemptions for past winners.
No need to have a spread of over 100 strokes between 1st and last over 4 rounds (like in 2022). With fewer participants, certainly easier to get two rounds in a day. Fewer participants means faster rounds as well, with fewer bottlenecks.
I don't see how any of this makes Worlds a better event. In terms of entertainment, play, sport growth, competition.....caddies, carts are not any part of the equation.
Some limitation of entry might be a discussion point in AM's or Master's Worlds, but I don't see where 200 players is an issue. You only need three courses to pull of that number, likely two if you use tee times. That allows most disc golf areas to consider submitting a bid to host.
If the pros want speed of play addressed, they have a plethora of ways to accomplish that, without limiting participation...like enforcing rules of play?
Flick Maniac
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Thanks.
I dunno. I dont see "Other sports" doing this all that much either. Like the NHL, of course you got to not suck enough to get into playoffs but you could still win the right games and still the "best team" would not win (kinda like the DGPT points #1 could still be taken out by the last guy to get into the Championship finals).
Olympics, World championships in track&field, winter sports etc you name it, you bring your A game that time and get the title or dont, and go cry home about how your stats are so good but just couldnt deliver at the time.
He should probably put his money where his mouth is and ask DD to stop marketing his two Worlds wins then.
If the goal is for Worlds to mean the most, it just makes sense to me that it should be the hardest to get into--not almost twice the participants of every other event. The best event should be hardest to get into, not the easiest. If someone want the prestige of playing in Worlds, they should have to earn it. Just my $.02 of course. We both know I could never sniff a Worlds, except maybe as a spotter.
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As I and others have said before, the more rounds you play, the more likely that the best competitor will win.
Fewer rounds makes a suddenly "hot" competitor better able to take it down.
Understood that fewer rounds makes it easier on the host site, but getting a site to host is undoubtedly easier than in the past.
My last point is that when Ken won his 10 Worlds in the 90's, they were playing ~8 rounds or more. Would Paul have won more if there were 8 or more rounds at Worlds. Statistically, there is little doubt.
Probably not coincidental that they went to reduced rounds while Paul was winning his 4th straight.
Fewer rounds makes a suddenly "hot" competitor better able to take it down.
Understood that fewer rounds makes it easier on the host site, but getting a site to host is undoubtedly easier than in the past.
My last point is that when Ken won his 10 Worlds in the 90's, they were playing ~8 rounds or more. Would Paul have won more if there were 8 or more rounds at Worlds. Statistically, there is little doubt.
Probably not coincidental that they went to reduced rounds while Paul was winning his 4th straight.
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uncle pennybags
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How about a huge field to start with, but cut 10-15% of them every round?
Flick Maniac
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Sounds like DGPT Championships (not just a huge field to start with)
biscoe
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The two things were unrelated. The move to fewer courses/rounds was based on 2 things- desire to have more possible venues and player desire to have it be less of a time/financial commitment.
I love all this.
