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2015 Pros and Their Manufacturers

Ah DGCR...never change.

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I still think everyone is overstating the impact pros have on a brand's success.

I think it is hard to know without seeing financials from the companies, which are obviously not public. It would be interesting to see if Gateway sales changed after JohnE McCray started his success on tour this year.
 
Discmania has yet to announce their newest team member yet. A teaser of box loaded with team stamps was shared not too long ago.
 
I think it is hard to know without seeing financials from the companies, which are obviously not public. It would be interesting to see if Gateway sales changed after JohnE McCray started his success on tour this year.
I suppose it could. JohnE to me is the classic "Gateway guy;" the dudes who showed up with a bag full of max weight Wizards, Demons and Spirits and torqued the living Hell out of everything. For years everything Gateway made was overstable as Hell, and that type of bag really seemed to suit JohnE quite well. He really seemed to be a player that Gateway's limited line-up really didn't hurt at all, because the discs they make really suited his game.

That said, Nikko still to me is the name most associated with Gateway even though JohnE was a Gateway guy long before Nikko was old enough to be a pro. I would think if the loss of a player was going to torpedo Gateway, it would have been Nikko. Yet there they are.
 
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I think you guys put WAY to much stock in what Pro players bring to the table for these companies.
Other than serious discgolfers and the friends of these guys... No one knows who they are.... Go tell someone you work with there are professional, traveling, & RANKED disc golfers. Bet you get a funny look. Then ask the same person if they know ummm I dunno any random athlete from any other professional sport. I bet they could make a guess... I enjoy that our professionals are cool and friendly but Nike doesn't. Nike wants the $$$ not the guys that complain about payout. Climo would of been sponsored by someone HUGE back in the day if that was going to happen. The only other person that could be an Under Armour or Nike guy would be "the Beast" the guy is a fricking ATHLETE. That being said Im sure a few people make moves away from Prodigy.... Possibly Will to Innova??
 
That being said Im sure a few people make moves away from Prodigy.... Possibly Will to Innova??

I heard rumors about Will leaving but that was before the USDGC. I've also heard rumors about their being no love between a few of the ladies on Prodigy, but I don't know if it's enough to break up the band.
 
Will seems heavily involved promoting/running the Par2 challenge, doubt he would go through all of that if he was planning on leaving any time soon. Nikko seems to be the most likely to bounce.
 
I think you guys put WAY to much stock in what Pro players bring to the table for these companies.

I strongly disagree with this statement. There is a reason that having sponsored players on tour is highly sought after from all the new start up manufactures; it puts the company on the map. Where would prodigy right now if they had just rolled out a lineup with no pros advertising for them? Why are all the small start ups (deity, salient, ect) targeting tour players if their isn't significant benefit for them?
 
So isn't it kind of a big deal that JohnE left Gateway? I listened to his interview on Disc Golf Talk Radio from October (just after USDGC) and I got the impression he had been with them for a while and was very loyal to the company. A big deal was made about his choice to play ONLY with Gateway discs even though they have a limited lineup. Seems like a tough choice to make after they helped him have such a successful first year on tour. I don't know much about him other than that interview so maybe I am missing some details.

I didn't think JohnE threw an all gateway line up. How was that supposed to work when he had a signature disc with salient this year too?
 
Was it not a personal decision on JMs part?
JohnE was the Gateway guy of Florida. He ran a company called Gateway South the distributed Gateway discs around Florida. It was that presence that had players like Garrett Gurthie throwing Gateway when they came up. I'm not sure if they had any sort of formal business relationship (knowing what I know about Gateway I doubt it) but JohnE did way more for Gateway than just throw their discs. A personal decision to throw only Gateway would be in keeping with the commitment he showed to the brand.
 
I didn't think JohnE threw an all gateway line up. How was that supposed to work when he had a signature disc with salient this year too?
Gateway made a big deal when Nikko played well at the 2008 Worlds about allowing players to use a "mixed bag." They always allowed it (at one time I was told they required you to use a Gateway putter) but at that point they promoted it as the way disc golf sponsorship should work. JohnE was basically their only top player with an all-Gateway bag, and he stayed that way for years. I believe the Salient deal was part of an effort this year to keep him on tour and Gateway was fine with a dual sponsorship. Before that he had an all-Gateway bag for a long time when he didn't technically need to.
 
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