Z Crush skip shot. Nice hard hyzer to the inside apex of the dogleg. Let 'er skip to the chains.
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Throw a understable disc at a lower power. The extra glide will help it carry more on a hyzer line and no need to torque a firebird hard or finesse a putter. I have a very beat up axiom crave i use for these kind of shots. They also skip much better vs slower mids. Nose up low flying hyzers are great for wooded courses!
I'd practice using thumbers thrown less overhand and more sidearm...Schwebby has mastered these shots...really good to know how to do them. Wicked turning skips.
These bounce to the right for righties.
I've tried just mellowing out some hyzer shots with mids and it's working ok, still need to practice FH rollers more too. I tried one with a Firebird and it went 350' dead straight and tipped over onto its top without even curving around. Super crazy to watch for someone who never does them. It certainly wasn't a loop around the corner roller but it showed me that rollers can accomplish lots of different things with disc choice changes.
These bounce to the right for righties.
I've tried just mellowing out some hyzer shots with mids and it's working ok, still need to practice FH rollers more too. I tried one with a Firebird and it went 350' dead straight and tipped over onto its top without even curving around. Super crazy to watch for someone who never does them. It certainly wasn't a loop around the corner roller but it showed me that rollers can accomplish lots of different things with disc choice changes.
Non-cut rollers have a maximum amount of corner cutting ability. Kinda like hyzers. Cut rollers can go a LONG way left or right; kinda like anhyzers.
The Firebird resists turning over, so it can run out of steam and not cut the corner (like you experienced) more easily than a flippy disc. However, I think OS stuff has more corner cutting potential.
Have you tried a forehand hyzer-flip?
When you say OS has more corner cutting ability, is that on a cut roller, or on a normal roller that you just start more tipped over? Or both? Obviously it would be in opposite directions.