brandocommando9
Double Eagle Member
Mcpro roc3s are very consistent, if you like base plastic rocs I would suggest buying a stack next time they are on the shop.
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[Question] Anyone else not like the roc?
- Thread starter Hammer1248
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Mcpro roc3s are very consistent, if you like base plastic rocs I would suggest buying a stack next time they are on the shop.
SD86
Banned
Merciful heavens, the feeding frenzy that is going to occur when the balloon goes up for that!....
opcorn:brandocommando9
Double Eagle Member
Not many ranchos were flat, they were all over the spectrum of domeyness. There were runs here and there that were but really if you wanted a flat roc before the days of roc3's you really had to get ching rocs and after chings you had to get marshall street flat tops.
Questatement
Double Eagle Member
I only throw factory, flat-topped KC pros and I've yet to get one that didn't fly identical to all the rest when new. It has convinced me that one of the largest determinants of flight variation b/t same mold/plastic/weight discs is dome... be it the effect on PLH or other more difficult to determine attributes.
I dont mind rocs but some people who throw them are way too hard up on a bird stamped midrange.
Innova has slutted up the name pretty bad too at this point. Even the "real roc" throwers are salty.
Innova has slutted up the name pretty bad too at this point. Even the "real roc" throwers are salty.
THUGNIFICENT763
Banned
My bottom stamped DX Rancho was quite flat. It was the stamp that had this lame dude.
I gave my guy an afro and turned his disc into paraphernalia hahahahaha.
brandocommando9
Double Eagle Member
My bottom stamped DX Rancho was quite flat. It was the stamp that had this lame dude.
I gave my guy an afro and turned his disc into paraphernalia hahahahaha.
I have a couple of the same bottom stamps one is sorta flat the other is typical mild dome roc. Before the days of roc3 if you wanted a roc that was board flat you had to get chings or marshall street flat tops.
When I say flat I mean board flat like a good z buzzz flat not just flat for the mold.
Questatement
Double Eagle Member
I could ditch the 2, flat topped KC pros in my bag for 2, old run esp wasps I have in 9/10 & 6.5/10 condition but I can't replace the wasps if lost. Does anyone know if any of the new esp runs came out relatively flat?
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tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
If you're not a fan of beaded discs, the Hyzerbomb Mortar is the old beadless Gator mold.
Yep, the 2015 ledgestone ones came in flat like a good Wasp.
Questatement
Double Eagle Member
Hmm, verrrrry interesting.
THUGNIFICENT763
Banned
Ranchos are the flattest of the Roc molds, though. I believe the hierarchy of dome goes Rancho>San Marino>Ontario. This hierarchy holds true for overstability as well. Ontarios are widely regarded as "the disc that ruined the Roc name" I believe as well. for all of those guys saying Ching Roc, that is still considered a Rancho hahahaha.
cboucher
Par Member
I used to have a DX Roc and later a Glow DX Roc when I was first getting into disc golf (still learning how to throw). I kind of went back and forth with the Roc because I was always messing around with my grip. They never felt comfortable in the hand for me although I could get some nice flights out of them occasionally. I ended up losing both of them pretty early on and replacing them with Buzzzes. Since then, I went to using a fan grip for all mids and putters and my form has greatly improved. I've never thrown a Roc with a fan grip, so maybe they're more comfortable to throw that way?
brandocommando9
Double Eagle Member
The problem with your original comment is not all ranchos are flat. The dome on ranchos is all over the place and the majority of ranchos are semi domey. So instead of letting someone read your comment and buy a rancho hoping for it to be flat I figured I should put the truth out there most ranchos are NOT FLAT.
mrDROCK
Par Member
I do have the Mortar as a backup for my Gator. So far the bead on the Gator doesn't bother me, maybe because I throw it forehand mostly.
tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
FWIW I have an Ontario and two Ranchos in the bag right now. The Ontario is the flattest of the three.
mrDROCK
Par Member
I did pick up a Shark3 to try. It didn't work for the slot I was trying to fill. (Straight, not turn, with a strong forward fade. MD3 fits that for me.)
Hammer1248
Newbie
This post got so out of hand. Lol. But i just dont like how a roc and shark fit in my hand. I grew up throwing leopards and still love them. Just finding them harder to throw consistently with the same form and arm speed. Ive found that my monarch is more consistent but lower speeds dont hold the line i want. So i still throw the leo, just not happy about it. My starfire replaces my teebird but the same speed problem is there. Less control but i can put the starfire where i want. I think its rim size thats the difference because i can throw a dragon the same as a leo and banshee for hook shots my teebird would do,well. Dragon is only in dx :'( so still trying to find a replacement
tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
You might want to be careful thinking that those higher speed discs are easier to throw consistently. While they should be by their nature, they also mask form flaws. The only reason I'm even mentioning this is you saying that you can throw a Monarch but the Leopard isn't consistent anymore. If that is the case, and you keep ingraining those flaws into your form, they'll be harder to correct the longer you keep throwing with the discs that mask them.
hugheshilton
* Ace Member *
Are you kidding? This thread is actually surprisingly on topic and polite, especially for such a touchy subject. I've seen much, much worse here. Welcome to DGCR.
