You're probably right. All of my ball golf friends know how the spin gets on a golf ball. But that isn't really how it happens.
The issue is that we don't ever really wanna feel dumb or seem dumb.
We think were good at disc golf, so we think we know it all.
It's just the Dunning Kruger effect. And its everywhere all the time.
For anyone who doesn't know, it's a chart/curve based on actual knowledge, and perceived knowledge. This is what stems the idea of "you don't really know anything until you know what questions to ask." Or some things similar to this.
Were currently stuck with a bunch of youtubers who are stuck in this effect and have no clue, even when they are told. They are at the start of it, they know they are not 100%, but they think they know more than everyone else. But they really don't know a whole lot of anything.
This is why Josh and Trent and so many others get slammed by anyone with actual coaching knowledge on disc golf. But nobody but a few of us will just outright say "that is wrong, you need to do better."
Everyone is to busy trying to suck them off because they are on the bandwagon, or because they want to ride their glory.
Until these guys have any level of realization that they don't know what they think they know, they are not informed coaches to me. They might step on a few good idea's here or there, but they are usually from others.
And this is why I complain about coaches not talking enough. It's because you'll never get questions unless you talk. You'll just live in your echo chamber forever and ever.
And this is what happens with spin and flight. I have lots of questions. I want the answers. I'm going to get the answers. I just know our current understanding is really poor on the subject, nobody has looked into it at all, they just make wild assumptions and accusations.
And if you say ANYTHING to the contrary, they will try and shred you.
I'm just done with the stupidity of online coaches. I tried to be nice. I tried to help a bunch of people. And most of them are to concerned with all the wrong things. I wanna be good at what I do, and learn. I have no effing clue what they are doing other than sponsored ad's and really crappy experiments throwing through a doorway in what looks like some dudes garage turned into an air bnb.