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Best Player Without A Major Win
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interesting list. some of the older ones are my underdog pics for sure.
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Back to the original question(s):
Looks like Lizotte and McMahon might fit the category "Best Player w/o a Major"
Looks like Schusterick (1015) might be one that was lowest-rated (2010 USDGC) but I haven't done a ton of digging. Ron Russell also won his 1999 Worlds with a 1015 rating.
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lyleoross
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Laser, I'm gonna make my DeLa case. I'm not trying to convert, just justify. 
First, if DeLa was really about luck Paul and Ricky wouldnt be nailing it down year after year, it would be spread to other lesser players. Second, While i agree, roots etc. should be dealt with, typically what gets a player in trouble is exceeding their skill level. On many courses you can take really hard runs at the basket with no risk. DeLa says no on pretty much every hole. I realize there's a value there but when Paul or Ricky runs at DeLa you know the risk and know what happens if they miss. DeLa holds me on my seat like few courses do.
That said, if you replaced DeLa with Worlds and wrapped that bundle up, I'd think it was a good move.
First, if DeLa was really about luck Paul and Ricky wouldnt be nailing it down year after year, it would be spread to other lesser players. Second, While i agree, roots etc. should be dealt with, typically what gets a player in trouble is exceeding their skill level. On many courses you can take really hard runs at the basket with no risk. DeLa says no on pretty much every hole. I realize there's a value there but when Paul or Ricky runs at DeLa you know the risk and know what happens if they miss. DeLa holds me on my seat like few courses do.That said, if you replaced DeLa with Worlds and wrapped that bundle up, I'd think it was a good move.
takman
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Then there should not be any question which events are Majors.
biscoe
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If you are not talking only current players then Stokely is/was the best player without a Major victory (in singles play). He was clearly the second best player in the world for a number of years in the 90's but never got over the top against Kenny. Harder to get a Major victory when there was only one of them to be had.
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I'd add Markus Källström to that list and probably Mike Moser.
Dire Wolfy
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Jenkins 4x world titles?
Lazerface
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Laser, I'm gonna make my DeLa case. I'm not trying to convert, just justify.
That said, if you replaced DeLa with Worlds and wrapped that bundle up, I'd think it was a good move.
I've thought about that. Luck fest is unfair and the list of winners proves it's not that. It requires precise execution for sure, but there are multiple holes where they are literally throwing into trees and hoping to fall in a good spot, lots of roots that cause roll aways that are impossible to predict, and generally just weird lines that I don't find entertaining to watch. A "pure" shot at Dela often still feels a little lucky to me. It has a handful of iconic holes that are fantastic and if you like death putts it's a great course, but my personal opinion is that theme is over used. It's all subjective, but when I think of courses on tour that could fit major status there are so many ahead of Dela.
Dela has a history and prestige that fits the major narrative and I feel like those things, rather than the course, are what the pros really love. If Dela was put in the ground today and the tour went through I think you would hear many pros calling it out as a gimmicky course, but I could be wrong.
Dire Wolfy
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I guess, I was gonna joke about how she got dq'd but whatever.
Lazerface
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I vote Eagle and Simon current. Stokelya and Moser in the 90s for sure. Kallstrom was a good pick too, but his career ended short. He had unbelievable arm speed. Wish he kept playing.
BuiltTooLong
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Cale Leiviska has been a top 10 player for the last decade without that signature W, so my vote is for him.
DiscAnarchy
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Sounds like there really is no clear definition of a disc golf major, as there is in golf and tennis.
Completely separate but the lead card in MJ1 at the 2002 Am Worlds in Miami was Myles Harding, Matt Orum, Gregg Barsby, and Garrett Gurthie. Best juniors card ever assembled?
I think Cale and Matt Orum are in almost the same exact boat...
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