Grungedude42
Double Eagle Member
I dunno. Bad idea on my part?
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Carbon Fiber Discs
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I would only be interested by a new material if it was demonstrated that discs coud be produced more consistently than they can be in plastic.
Durability is an overhyped issue. I basically never wear out Champ/Z discs, and in fact most discs fly best when at least a little beat up. I have in fact never worn out a champ disc to the point where it was unusuable, but I've given up on lots of discs that didn't fly like they were supposed to because of inconsistent manufacturing.
Durability is an overhyped issue. I basically never wear out Champ/Z discs, and in fact most discs fly best when at least a little beat up. I have in fact never worn out a champ disc to the point where it was unusuable, but I've given up on lots of discs that didn't fly like they were supposed to because of inconsistent manufacturing.
ZAMson
^Has PhD in Disc-Artistry
Posting pics of a product that's not yet protected and ready to go to market = stupid, always.
dmbrun2
Eagle Member
Makes sense
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Don't have time to read this entire thread, but from what I know of producing parts from carbon fiber, the process is too labor intensive, and these discs would be cost prohibitive. Further, I'm not really sure CF is necessarily a superior material for this use...perhaps it's suitable, but it would have to be significantly better for people to spend $25 or so per disc on a regular basis when you can get Champ for about 1/2 that price.
cjskier
Double Eagle Member
This thread is amazingly full of misinformation, but I really liked this one. Would you care to show me the rule "requiring" a mini in tourney play? Minis would be cool though.
OP, I hope to see one of these cf discs in person. I realize that with cf you have the ability to make discs super light. which is something innova is cashing in huge on right now...
How about making a wide rimmed driver, with the rim hallow? I'll take a 50 gram nuke please.
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rxflores
Bogey Member
Still no pics?? Mmmmmmmm idk bout this thread....... Smells fishhyy to me.. Carbon fiber discs? It just sounds like it either would go great and 2 weeks later someone gets there head chopped off or it's gonna fail epicly. But I agree with the other guys^^ I'd like some minis. And maybe I'd try a driver but it's juts sounds to expensive.
Not too hard....once the product is laid up and cured, splintering is a minimum, but that does depend on what sort of c.f. is used. At any rate, I'd assume that he would use a relatively thick gel coat over the cured layup for appearance, durability, and avoiding any rough edges/splinters. The big downside to a c.f. disc in this sense is that it's a pita to touch up damaged areas (which is why I'd rather see a mid instead of a putter or driver, which no doubt see more impacts, etc).
I'm not even a carbon fiber fanboy, but it's still pretty neat and looks great when the attractive top layers are used under a clear finish. I think it'd be neat to have one...and they'd definitely make awesome trophies if nothing else.
There's really nothing to protect is there? I may be wrong, but I'm thinking that simply using a different material for the construction is not a protectable aspect of a product. The only thing risky is that some other guy who has a garage of c.f. molding items might get the jump on you. Right. lol.
jrawk
* Ace Member *
If you go out of bounds or stuck in a tree, a mini is the only allowable marker. Everybody better have one.
http://www.pdga.com/rules/80303-marking-the-lie
B. A player is only required to mark the lie with a mini marker disc when repositioning the lie under the rules. This includes the following rules: out-of-bounds, disc above or below the playing surface, lost disc, optional rethrow, relocated for relief, interference, or repositioning the lie within 1 meter of the out-of-bounds line.
who-dat
Eagle Member
(taps the mic) is there a Tyler in the house?
cjskier
Double Eagle Member
Touche, I didn't think of that scenario.
Zingman
Newbie
Carbon Fiber Polyethylene?
Another tidbit from your plastics buddy (Zingman, the mini guy) regarding carbon fiber technology and the potential application of injection molding your idea.
Just squirt this stuff into your molds.. Thank you Dr. Amit Naskar for your hard work! Let's go big disc manufacturers!!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120327152903.htm
Craig
Zingman
Another tidbit from your plastics buddy (Zingman, the mini guy) regarding carbon fiber technology and the potential application of injection molding your idea.
Just squirt this stuff into your molds.. Thank you Dr. Amit Naskar for your hard work! Let's go big disc manufacturers!!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/03/120327152903.htm
Craig
Zingman
MrGlass01
* Ace Member *
Nice!!!
Milk came out my nose!!!Its gunna take a little while for me to get my own mold built (one thats not a copy of a patented version) and then make the disks. Thanks for the feedback. From what you guys have said, I'll work on making sure it won't chip and leave sharp edges, I'm probably going to make a medium or putter, possibly some minis, oh, and I'll make sure it won't chop any heads off
jenb
* Ace Member *
Go ahead and copy away. Make me a an aviar, roc, and tee bird.
I'm also thinking about putting in some kind of filler material around the edges to give it weight. Something that would be easy to make with what I have on hand. I work at a CF lab, so CF is no problem, but outside of CF my resources are limited. Any suggestions?
rocthecourse
* Ace Member *
Minis would be cool assuming the price doesn't get to high.:thmbup:
steve a
* Ace Member *
Stashing minis with a twist lock design.
blammo
Birdie Member
You guys thinking heads are going to be sliced off are ridiculous. Assuming the disc could be made legal under PDGA deflection guidelines, they're not going to be and more or less dangerous than some hard premium plastic. And there are limitations about how sharp the edge of a disc can be too, so it won't be a flying razor blade. Ever been hit with Champ/Z plastic from point blank range? I have, and I have the scar to prove it. 4 stitches in the mouth from a Z Buzzz. That could be just as lethal if the circumstances were right.
Based on what I've seen carbon fiber items sell for in other applications, it would be a downright STEAL if you could buy a CF disc for anywhere less than $50. I'm not against progression by any means, so I welcome any attempt to further the technology and equipment of our sport. That said, I can't see what carbon fiber has to offer that we would need, other than looking awesome. Doesn't mean it's a bad idea. And if they end up having something to offer other than aesthetics, I'd certainly give them a chance. But if you can make me a carbon fiber mini for $12-$20, I'd buy one for sure.
Based on what I've seen carbon fiber items sell for in other applications, it would be a downright STEAL if you could buy a CF disc for anywhere less than $50. I'm not against progression by any means, so I welcome any attempt to further the technology and equipment of our sport. That said, I can't see what carbon fiber has to offer that we would need, other than looking awesome. Doesn't mean it's a bad idea. And if they end up having something to offer other than aesthetics, I'd certainly give them a chance. But if you can make me a carbon fiber mini for $12-$20, I'd buy one for sure.
