Mattallica
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Flyboy has rubber pads?
Does it not?
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Flyboy has rubber pads?
The problem with doing as you suggest is that there are way to many permutations to play to even comprehend when you get 2-3 tee pads per hole and 2-4 basket locations per. Then, am I supposed to choose the best tee that suits me for each hole. Or, maybe I would have to ding the courses that are too short from the shorts. Hopefully you get the point that with all the different course scenarios out there, there is no good way to be consistent in choosing how you rate......other than how I am doing it.
Although I heard they are losing the green for 11 gold/blue, hole 12 gold/blue fairway and hole 16 gold tee.
Ya'll are crazy. Beaver Ranch (if thats conifer) is Awesome! So what if it has laminated paper tee signs. It also has nice tees, benches, bag hangers, sick elevation changes, open, tight, wooded, uphill, downhill, long, short holes. It has it all (except for a nearby parking lot). Though there are no par 4's there are some pretty challenging 3's
I heard nothing about this from Steve at the Vibram Open...would be sad if true.
Maple Hill is easily in my top 5 although as folks have shown, at just outside the top 10 at DGCR, it's not exactly underrated here. I absolutely love everything about the course, but I can see how it would get unfairly dinged by lesser skilled golfers for which even the red layout is too much course for. :\
Yes, there is a good way to choose layouts...they are clearly labeled gold, blue, white, and red.
I see we have similar PDGA ratings (around 950). When I went to Maple Hill last year, I played the blue tees and had a blast scoring a few birdies and a few more bogies because they were designed for my skill level. If I had played the golds, I would have probably seen it as a miserable course.
It's silly to chose a layout that's too hard/long when it's intentionally designed to be too hard...and then complain that it's too hard/long, especially when whoever runs Maple Hill put so much time into implementing four clear and distinct layouts.
oh....and this is not just about me and my rating method. As has been mentioned, it happens all the time on DGCR that courses that are too rough or too hard get dinged.
We are reviewing here how "good" courses are. How "good" for what? .....For playing, of course. So, if they do not present a fun/challenging/rewarding/relaxing/whatever that the reviewer deems as "good", the rating will reflect that.
How many of the top 10 are brutally hard and rough around the edges? Well....there you go.
oh....and this is not just about me and my rating method. As has been mentioned, it happens all the time on DGCR that courses that are too rough or too hard get dinged.
We are reviewing here how "good" courses are. How "good" for what? .....For playing, of course. So, if they do not present a fun/challenging/rewarding/relaxing/whatever experience that the reviewer deems as "good", the rating will reflect that.
How many of the top 10 are brutally hard and rough around the edges? Well....there you go.
Dave I just played Quaker's Challenge in PA in a tourney...it was in pristine condition
I changed my rating of it to a 5.....I suspect the genesis of this thread coincides with tourney conditions for Vibram Open at Maple Hill
Does it not?
Yeah - I played it in 2006. There were just the Airplanes and Elements layouts back then. My review has a little clock icon by it....but I do not think that excludes my rating from the average.
Even so, unless all courses were labeled clearly as you say MH is, there is no way I can figure out how to get consistency rate courses.
And, it is not silly.......people rate courses down all the time if they are too easy (not fun). It is the same rationale for it being too hard.......well, unless the reviewer has not learned how to play yet.
Dave I just played Quaker's Challenge in PA in a tourney...it was in pristine condition
I changed my rating of it to a 5.....I suspect the genesis of this thread coincides with tourney conditions for Vibram Open at Maple Hill
The comment about rating down a course that is too hard was meant to be conditional on easier tees having been provided. It would be equally silly for a gold- or blue-level player to go to Maple Hill, play the red tees, and then complain it was too easy.
My 700 rated wife doesn't find it to be too hard - I think you made an unusual choice when deciding which layout to play. Although some players like playing golds just to get an idea of what the pros are calabor of doing.How many of the top 10 are brutally hard and rough around the edges? Well....there you go.
It does, it was more of a "What are you talking about" type of question. :|