i try to tell him every time he's throwing the COMPLETELY wrong disc for that, but he swears he's done it before :\ yeah right
This is the answer I hear most often given in the face of sound DG advice.
Yeah, you did it once, in a heavy headwind, with so much OAT that you nearly tore open the space-time continuum.
What about the 20 times it didn't even come close to working?!?! :wall: