46YearOldSlinger
Double Eagle Member
Thanks again for all the great input. I'd really like to try all of these but based on all the research and some feeling up of discs in PIAS the leading candidates for a shallow, slow, low fade putter seemed to be the Summit and the Swan2 so I went out and bought both and have been having a practice basket shootout with these along with an Aviar P&A, Nova, and Anode. One thing I learned very quickly is that I do much better with a sticky gummy material that melds between my thumb and middle finger pinch if that makes sense. So now I've realized I'm super picky and need all of the following to putt my best: slow, shallow, low fade, and grippy.
I was easily making the most putts with the Swan2 and Summit. I just couldn't get the same grip on the Anode and it's also a bit deep dish. As stated before the Nova and the Aviar P&A are also a too deep dish and thus the reason for the search. I must say when released flat and straight with a good release the Nova is a thing of beauty - perhaps the most neutral pretty flight of any disc I've ever thrown. I still just can't get over the depth of the rim as it's just awkward sometimes.
With all of the above ruled out the primary contenders are the Swan2 and the Summit. I'm 100% certain I could use either one of these as my primary putter and improve my game (this makes me very happy). With both of these I can very comfortably and naturally pinch down between my thumb and middle finger without an awkward rim in the way and beyond just the shape/size they both have a gummy/grippy quality that is really helping me add a little zip/spin that is also keeping my putts straighter longer. So the big question... which one can I putt better with? Honestly I'm not sure as they're both awesome and fly very similar inside 40ft. Here's the pluses and minuses.
Grip - both are awesome but the edge goes to the Swan2 soft versus the Summit medium - grippy goodness
Rim depth/feel/shape - The rim on the Summit is a little shallower - edge Summit.
Fade - dang this is a close call but the Swan2 fades a little less. Edge Swan2 (again very close call)
Speed - Tie - Inside the circle it's too close to call for me
Okay so now a couple of things that may be a little unfair in a heads up one on one contest but will likely factor into my decision.
Cost - I'm gonna have a stack of my go to putter both at home and at work (I'm a lucky boy and actually have permanent practice baskets installed at work). I'll probably pick up 20 of the winner so the cost advantage goes to the Swan2.
Color - I have practice basket in a dimly lit back yard at night. I can get Swan2s in white (easy to spot in dim light) and Summits generally come in camouflage (multicolored) which are not as easy to find. I realize this matters to likely no one but me but...
I feel I can putt equally well with either option but am leaning Swan2 due to the last 2 factors. I'll probably throw them both in a field to test them outside the circle before making a call but truthfully I'm so happy with my Tangent as an upshot disc that unless one of these really impresses me shouldn't be that big of a factor. I'm making this pick solely on putting inside the circle.
I was easily making the most putts with the Swan2 and Summit. I just couldn't get the same grip on the Anode and it's also a bit deep dish. As stated before the Nova and the Aviar P&A are also a too deep dish and thus the reason for the search. I must say when released flat and straight with a good release the Nova is a thing of beauty - perhaps the most neutral pretty flight of any disc I've ever thrown. I still just can't get over the depth of the rim as it's just awkward sometimes.
With all of the above ruled out the primary contenders are the Swan2 and the Summit. I'm 100% certain I could use either one of these as my primary putter and improve my game (this makes me very happy). With both of these I can very comfortably and naturally pinch down between my thumb and middle finger without an awkward rim in the way and beyond just the shape/size they both have a gummy/grippy quality that is really helping me add a little zip/spin that is also keeping my putts straighter longer. So the big question... which one can I putt better with? Honestly I'm not sure as they're both awesome and fly very similar inside 40ft. Here's the pluses and minuses.
Grip - both are awesome but the edge goes to the Swan2 soft versus the Summit medium - grippy goodness
Rim depth/feel/shape - The rim on the Summit is a little shallower - edge Summit.
Fade - dang this is a close call but the Swan2 fades a little less. Edge Swan2 (again very close call)
Speed - Tie - Inside the circle it's too close to call for me
Okay so now a couple of things that may be a little unfair in a heads up one on one contest but will likely factor into my decision.
Cost - I'm gonna have a stack of my go to putter both at home and at work (I'm a lucky boy and actually have permanent practice baskets installed at work). I'll probably pick up 20 of the winner so the cost advantage goes to the Swan2.
Color - I have practice basket in a dimly lit back yard at night. I can get Swan2s in white (easy to spot in dim light) and Summits generally come in camouflage (multicolored) which are not as easy to find. I realize this matters to likely no one but me but...
I feel I can putt equally well with either option but am leaning Swan2 due to the last 2 factors. I'll probably throw them both in a field to test them outside the circle before making a call but truthfully I'm so happy with my Tangent as an upshot disc that unless one of these really impresses me shouldn't be that big of a factor. I'm making this pick solely on putting inside the circle.
