Jesse B 707
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300 YARDS? you are the new world record holder!nothaz said:
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Moseley
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OK Nothaz, with the drama It's understandable if you feel a bit defensive or something, so take this in the best possible way, ok? ;-) Don't really understand the intensity my self but thats of no consequence, so here goes;
If your backhand hurts beyond some fatigue/stiffnes after practice and you're throwing 300 then there has to be something wrong, at least assuming that your general physical fitness is ok. I'm around that distance my self right now and it fels like I hardly use force at all (actually that's my problem - if I put any kind of power on the throw it just breaks down). And I'm much older than you, and physically out of shape at that. So I think you could benefit from putting up a video or just describing where things you wonder about regarding your technique, and especially how/where/when it hurts. There might very well be that fixing this would also increase your distance, at least you will be more confident and thereby smoother and more consistent if you don't have to worry bout pains.
Some times you might get an answer that puts you off, like Keltiks n00bicons and all that. But just look at his hip pivot video, you can se he's more like a teddy bear than a mean MF ;-) As for me I'm a fellom forum noob and just a little bit jealous of you, would have been great to discover this sport when I was your age! I hope you get to reach all your DG goals with support from the people at this forum. This is just the best resource out there for everything disc golf. You just have to remember it's only people = occasionally stooopid even though the comments are mostly well-meant
If your backhand hurts beyond some fatigue/stiffnes after practice and you're throwing 300 then there has to be something wrong, at least assuming that your general physical fitness is ok. I'm around that distance my self right now and it fels like I hardly use force at all (actually that's my problem - if I put any kind of power on the throw it just breaks down). And I'm much older than you, and physically out of shape at that. So I think you could benefit from putting up a video or just describing where things you wonder about regarding your technique, and especially how/where/when it hurts. There might very well be that fixing this would also increase your distance, at least you will be more confident and thereby smoother and more consistent if you don't have to worry bout pains.
Some times you might get an answer that puts you off, like Keltiks n00bicons and all that. But just look at his hip pivot video, you can se he's more like a teddy bear than a mean MF ;-) As for me I'm a fellom forum noob and just a little bit jealous of you, would have been great to discover this sport when I was your age! I hope you get to reach all your DG goals with support from the people at this forum. This is just the best resource out there for everything disc golf. You just have to remember it's only people = occasionally stooopid even though the comments are mostly well-meant
Timko
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nothaz said:
The teebird is a tough disc to hyzer flip at the distance your throwing it. It's really a hyzer flip disc for those that throw in the 400' range especially new. Try keeping the disc flat, and throwing it pure with a lot of power, or giving it some of anhyzer, and letting it work. The Teebird really excels at straight flight, but by changing the angle you throw it on, you can move it a little left and right.
HUC said:
Okay I guess it would have cleared up things early on, so here I go:
I have played baseball for years. Well in my freshman year(in public school) I was pitching in the season opener. Everything was going well until the third inning. At the time I threw overhand and mid-pitch something felt wrong. I ended up walking the first batter. I motioned for the coach and we had a chat on the mound. I said I was in pain, he said he needed me to finish up the inning and I could sit. I didn't make it through and ended up doing some serious damage to my arm. I couldn't play the rest of the season, dropped out of public school because I was depressed(baseball Is my life and was going to make it pro).
My coach had a talk with me and suggested I change my throwing technique. I wasn't into the idea of becoming a change-up specialist. I told him if I couldn't throw a hard fastball that I wouldn't feel comforable. He recommended switching arms which I tried before going side-arm. I joined a local team again and I've been throwing side-arm since.
So that is why I throw sidearm in disc golf. I try to go easy on my backhand because it hurts.
Wow, that's too bad.I would avoid backhand too if I were you.
I hope you've seen somebody about it. A supraspinatus tear cost me about 4 months of arm use and about 8 months of DG so I know what its like not to be able to play like you want to. Rehab sucks, but when you play again it's worth it.
You seem to have most of blake's shots covered for a sidearmer. You could probably use a slightly overstable fairway driver (aka stable control driver) so you don't have to power down your Mega-high speed drivers. As others have said teebirds work pretty well, but I think eagles let you do a bit more on a sidearm throw. A fast extremely overstable driver (firebird, predator, xtreme, monster) can be very useful especially for sidearmers on windy days.
Out of curiosity what kind of t-bird did you get? They are definitely not all the same. I have stiff domey dx teebirds that are meat hooks and gummy champ ones that flipped new.
I hope you've seen somebody about it. A supraspinatus tear cost me about 4 months of arm use and about 8 months of DG so I know what its like not to be able to play like you want to. Rehab sucks, but when you play again it's worth it.
You seem to have most of blake's shots covered for a sidearmer. You could probably use a slightly overstable fairway driver (aka stable control driver) so you don't have to power down your Mega-high speed drivers. As others have said teebirds work pretty well, but I think eagles let you do a bit more on a sidearm throw. A fast extremely overstable driver (firebird, predator, xtreme, monster) can be very useful especially for sidearmers on windy days.
Out of curiosity what kind of t-bird did you get? They are definitely not all the same. I have stiff domey dx teebirds that are meat hooks and gummy champ ones that flipped new.
Frank Delicious
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nothaz said:
You could definitely get a dx firebird. If you get that your bag could be good to go like this:
DX firebird
DX wraith
DX teebird
DX leopard
Viper
Panther
Magnet
You might get something to go between the panther and viper like a roc or wasp though.
What part of your arm hurts when you throw backhand?
Also as a big baseball fan what types of pitches did you have when you were in high school? Back when I used to pitch I had an ok fastball with good movement and a plus 12-6 curve, I stopped pitching because I was too short and my coach wanted me to play second base (this was way back in 9th grade though)
My elbow is what hurts. The exact injury dealt with the medial epicondyle.
I throw a 4 and 2 seam fastball, slider, circle change and a splitter. I got my power back, but my sliders are hard to throw hard anymore. So I throw the slider around 10mph slower than my hard fb's with nice movement. I added the 2 seamer after my recovery to make up for the lack of the hard slider I used to throw. It used to be such a great pitch that broke late and fooled a lot of people, but now if I throw it hard it looks like a slow fb(a total meatball).
Thanks for the advice frank I'll be picking up a firebird next time I play.
I throw a 4 and 2 seam fastball, slider, circle change and a splitter. I got my power back, but my sliders are hard to throw hard anymore. So I throw the slider around 10mph slower than my hard fb's with nice movement. I added the 2 seamer after my recovery to make up for the lack of the hard slider I used to throw. It used to be such a great pitch that broke late and fooled a lot of people, but now if I throw it hard it looks like a slow fb(a total meatball).
Thanks for the advice frank I'll be picking up a firebird next time I play.
what'shisname
Double Eagle Member
Not to say this is the same issue as you're having, but here's my experience with some elbow pain this spring:
I was throwing a lot of high speed drivers forehand/sidearm and getting some very nice drives and distance with them. I couldn't get near the distance backhand as I could forehand so I threw a lot of forehand drives. I went out a lot into the field to practice this spring as well and started getting a sore elbow. It seemed to me at the time that the pain was developing with my backhand throws which made me lean even harder on the forehands. It didn't take too many threads reading about elbow pain and forehand drives for me to start coming to grips with the reality that it was actually the forehand causing it and I needed to make a change.
So I set out to really work on my backhand and limit the forehand to my playing rounds on 2 or 3 holes where I really benefit from it. All summer I've been throwing mostly backhands and have improved my BH distance and accuracy but most importantly, the elbow pain is completely gone.
I was throwing a lot of high speed drivers forehand/sidearm and getting some very nice drives and distance with them. I couldn't get near the distance backhand as I could forehand so I threw a lot of forehand drives. I went out a lot into the field to practice this spring as well and started getting a sore elbow. It seemed to me at the time that the pain was developing with my backhand throws which made me lean even harder on the forehands. It didn't take too many threads reading about elbow pain and forehand drives for me to start coming to grips with the reality that it was actually the forehand causing it and I needed to make a change.
So I set out to really work on my backhand and limit the forehand to my playing rounds on 2 or 3 holes where I really benefit from it. All summer I've been throwing mostly backhands and have improved my BH distance and accuracy but most importantly, the elbow pain is completely gone.
Hmm... interesting. But my problem only exists when backhanding too much. My first game or so was backhanded and after both was in pain. That's when I went to forehand. The motion itself is not far from how I pitch, so my arm is quite conditioned for forehand shots.
