Carlton was delivered today and I'm thoroughly impressed. Build quality is amazing, pack is comfortable, and I think I'm gonna love it.
Ended up going with double putter pockets, seemed like a lot of common feedback was that if you use the bottom sleeve it makes the lower section more difficult to access. I don't think I'll carry this many discs hardly ever, but loaded it with 22 no problem and could probably manage another 2-3 if I had to.
3 putting putters in outermost haul pocket, 2 approach discs in the other with easy room for a third. 3 commonly used fairways in one putter pocket, two firebirds and a max for easy access in the other. 5 mids in one pocket under the putter pouch and 6 drivers in the other one.
In reality the course being played will determine exactly gets stored in the putter pouches. Those will be quick access go to discs for that course. Lesser thrown stuff will go underneath the putter pouches, and courses where I won't carry as many discs will see those fairly empty. I like putting my putters in the haul pockets because they're not tight going in and out but could see maybe wanting to have them higher up in the pouches after a couple of rounds.
I've got an insulated 1.5L hydrapak that I use with my trail running vest, I'll either put that in the middle compartment or I've also got 32 and 40 ounce double insulated metal bottles that will fit fine. That's one of the things I didn't like about my grip, that 40 ounce is heavy when filled and didn't like having it on one side of the bag. Having the 40 and 32 ounce both loaded just added way too much weight. I don't think I'll use the back zippered area for the hydrapak, dunno if it'd be as comfortable wearing the pack with it directly behind me.
Looks like a big factor in ease of use is how you have the discs facing. Putters in the haul pockets go in and out easier plate side facing outward. Those bottom main sections work best with the top plate facing inward. Putter pouches seem to work best outward. I think I'll store my towels in the haul pockets under the putters to help raise them up a bit. As they sit now the top inch or two sticks up. Having a bit more disc exposed will probably make things more convenient.
Very seldom will I probably carry 22 discs, unless I'm going out with the intent of field throwing. I think my initial concern was if I ever wanted to carry a few extra discs the Carlton would be real tight so I kept bouncing between it and the Octohaul, but at the same time wasn't sure how well the Haul would work with fewer discs in it. I know people put the drink insert in the bottom, or foam blocks or whatever but ultimately decided I'd rather carry less with the Carlton and be able to go up as opposed to rigging a Haul to accommodate less. Price difference definitely helped, plus I liked the gray/alpine colorway better than the navy or tan on the Haul's.
I didn't order a rainfly initially but probably will mainly to keep the bottom of the bag clean during sloppy months. I've got a stool I can sit the bag on, but one local course in particular is in the woods without a lot of natural grass and is fairly hilly so in the winter you get slick muddy hills. Every so often I'd give my grip bags a bath in the tub, hot water and regular Dawn soap and a sponge scrubbing, I'm assuming that shouldn't be an issue for Pound bags?