PDGA's New Disciplinary Process

[robdeforge]

Thank you for that, Jugular.

I should try to remember that in the current climate, both in here and in the world generally, we aren't allowed the luxury of vague defenses of our stupid opinions.

Freely stipulated: I don't always achieve the level of precision with language that I'm going for. I blame television. And Hilary, of course, because everything is her fault. :\

ah right, it's just a fake advantage. I got you now! :doh:

 

[GMcAtee]

The PDGA keeps the members of our committee private. The only name published is mine, as chair. We have 8 members.

We recently had a vacancy and I had about 50 applications to join. There is absolutely interest in being on this committee.

I would enjoy being on this committee.

 

[EarthRocker]

ah right, it's just a fake advantage. I got you now! :doh:

Careful with that head, sir. Precious cargo contained within.

Not sure if I need to say it differently, but here goes:

I am very sorry, Robdeforge, for being careless. I really did not think of any advantage at all to missing the marked lie by an inch or two one way or the other. When it was pointed out to me that there is an advantage in not thinking about the lie, it put a whole new spin on it for me.
I could have spent a little time trying to explain that I DO think about the mark, even though I don't care to look at the success or failure rate of others to stay within the proscribed distance. I could have said a bunch of stuff about how intent is such a huge part of any infraction, be it in our game, or in societal norms; and that the key phrase in those Rules, in my estimation, is "willful or purposeful circumvention."
I could have gone on for two or three paragraphs, easy.

But I was lazy. Or pressed for time. Sometimes, the former is an inference resulting from the latter. I hope I have made it a bit clearer, so that you and I may continue in our fellowship without rancor. Or something.

In any case, I remain,

apologetically yours,

and your humble servant,

=ER=

 

[brutalbrutus]

I would enjoy being on this committee.

Deuce Newton would surely liven up that party...

 

[ru4por]

Why? My membership should allow 100% transparency on chairs, members, etc.

I think it far more about being pragmatic and practical than transparent.

 

[Orioles_Lefty]

If the committee members' identities are not publicly known that's bad operations and a bad look. A secret cabal should not be making disciplinary decisions. The PDGA really makes me scratch my head sometimes.

 

[_MTL_]

Definitely disagree with the PDGA keeping members of ANY committee a secret.

I don't agree with it either. I'm just answering the why.

 

[_MTL_]

A secret cabal should not be making disciplinary decisions.

Check out the process. The President is the only who ultimately makes the decision and that is absolutely not private.

 

[robdeforge]

I could have said a bunch of stuff about how intent is such a huge part of any infraction, be it in our game, or in societal norms; and that the key phrase in those Rules, in my estimation, is "willful or purposeful circumvention."

that is just referring to player misconduct. you don't apply that standard of intent to calling each and every rule violation. :thmbup:

 

[biscoe]

IMO intent should have as little place in the rules of play as possible.

 

[EarthRocker]

that is just referring to player misconduct. you don't apply that standard of intent to calling each and every rule violation. :thmbup:

But...but...if the verbiage is "willful or purposeful circumvention of the rules," it's ALL about the intent. And as it applies to a silly foot fault, I feel like I can go ahead and shut my pie-hole now.

Y'all have an excellent day!

 

[Hampstead]

Discussions like this reinforce my interest in stand and deliver.

 

[juju]

pdga can suck on class DEEEZ NUTZ!

 

[_MTL_]

Discussions like this reinforce my interest in stand and deliver.

I'm sure you also don't support blocking in football, since people hold, defense in basketball, since people foul and passing in hockey since people pass illegally.

 

[Hampstead]

I'm sure you also don't support blocking in football, since people hold, defense in basketball, since people foul and passing in hockey since people pass illegally.

Team sports with referees, not self policing individual activities. Apples to cumquats.

 

[_MTL_]

Team sports with referees, not self policing individual activities. Apples to cumquats.

You are right.

I forgot that stand and deliver would cure it all. There's no chance anyone would ever have a falling putt, not place their foot correctly not accidentally hit their disc on release.

 

[Hampstead]

You are right.

I forgot that stand and deliver would cure it all. There's no chance anyone would ever have a falling putt, not place their foot correctly not accidentally hit their disc on release.

That's not the point. Time and time again people boast of their apathy in regards to opponents foot faulting. Far too few people want to be "that guy" to their card mates. But whatever. I just made a flippant comment mostly in response to how dull I find foot fault discussions. Of course, by doing so, I've been drawn into a dull foot fault discussion. This all could have been avoided if we had stand and deliver.


I'll leave my two cents on the counter.

 

[_MTL_]

TThis all could have been avoided if we had stand and deliver.

You are wrong.

Sorry.

 

[Hampstead]

You are wrong.

Sorry.

I can promise you we wouldn't be doing this right now if we had stand and deliver.


I am right.


Not sorry.

 

[robdeforge]

But...but...if the verbiage is "willful or purposeful circumvention of the rules," it's ALL about the intent. And as it applies to a silly foot fault, I feel like I can go ahead and shut my pie-hole now.

Y'all have an excellent day!

I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. "willful or purposeful circumvention of the rules" does not need to happen to call a stance violation, out of bounds, courtesy violation, etc. If you break the rules, you get called on it, and receive either a penalty stroke or warning.

IF you break the rules on purpose, you can be disqualified from the tournament.

you have an excellent day too!