try using a 150G valkyrie. its my favorite disc to throw when i am shooting forearm.
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for you guys that use Teebirds FH - how hard are you throwing? Are these gentle controlled tosses or 'flicks' or is this reaching far back and giving it all you've got? are Hyzer angles used? Before i understood anything about disc properties flight characteristics. I used to get a great helix out of a 175 teebird - not huge D - but i thought the S curve was great and it was fairly accurate. now Flicks and Xcals are pretty much the only discs i can throw with wreckless abandon that dont turn over- can get high 350-400. Anything with less speed or stability needs to be thrown with more finesse - or a hell of a lot of room for the s curve. I was disappointed with my star and especially dx Destroyers kept turning over. once in a while i'd get some huge d but felt i had to put too much care into the throw to make sure it does not turn over. The X-cal allowed me to throw harder and not worry about turning over so much - the loss of D in glide was marginal. I really like the low/straight line drive flights you can get . When control is key, A forehand "flick" with a slower disc like a Firebird still gets surprising distance.
You don't have to be a big dude or be super strong to throw a long backhand shot. You just need to work on the technique.
why would you choose to throw with wreckless abandon over finesse? little confused.
plus, it's all about how you release it, the weight of the disc, the type of plastic etc. the good forehand throwers can throw the teebird or any disc without making it S curve. it just depends on what is in their hand and how they throw it...
This. Personally, I think that throwing FH limits your distance based upon physical characteristics at a shorter distance than BH will. BH distance is much more based on form, while FH has more emphasis on strength. If you're capable of learning both, do it, but if you're a small person, you should definitely learn a BH through.
I'd love to see a good FH thrower put a Teebird out to 400+ with a window for right to left movement of less than 15 feet. There are much better discs for that type of shot.
That's exactly what I said though. It depends on the shot at hand, the person, the disc, etc. etc. That is just one situation where you probably wouldn't use a Teebird. However, depending on the weight, how much it's broke in, the type of plastic....the right golfer might use a teebird in that situation. Depends. With regards to finesse vs. going all out, I meant if you had the option to do both, why would you choose to go all out? Because I think with golf (disc and ball), when you swing or throw as hard as you absolutely can, you tend to lose some control.
For most forehand drives I throw an Orc because it can handle a lot of spin and is still predictable.