Roc vs Buzz

[Drewford]

I know these discs are different, but which is better for a first midrange? I have been playing a little while and personally prefer the roc now, but I didn't start throwing one until after I had been playing a couple years. I have friends that are new to the sport and I want to give them the best suggestions possible. I just wonder what other opinions are out there.

 

[Shooter14]

Honestly, I don't think that you could go wrong with either. They're both superb discs. The roc will be more OS out of the box than the buzzz. If I was beginning and knew what I know now, I'd start with a Buzzz and learn to shape lines with it.

That said, I throw Rocs now. I think that in different stages of beatness it's more my style. I like the fact that it's slower than the Buzzz.

 

[grotto]

Pick what ever you like. I started out with the Buzzz, had 4 of them and they all flew different! And folks have the nerve to complain about Innova inconsistency! Found a beat in KC Pro Roc once and I've never looked back. All the Buzzz's are long gone.

 

[OB Four]

I bag both and love them both. Personally, I couldn't throw a roc (and many other mids) until I fixed issues with my OAT. That said, a complete newb will probably not have the best form and a roc might just dive right for them. A buzzz will handle form issues better I feel like.

That said if the person in question is a beginner and wants to get better with their form get a DX roc. If the person is a complete newb and it's their first time playing, I'd say a z buzzz, bc a roc with OAT will prob make them hate the disc forever.

 

[gerth_vader]

suspect :/ its a rocbuzz love child

 

[Kodachrome]

Definitely a buzzz. Rocs just won't do much for a newbie IMO.

 

[bdodson]

i beat my dad using a roc3 round 1 (which I am not a fan of and had only thrown one time) and a cryztal buzzz round 2, he used the same roc3 round 2 and the same buzzz round 1.
scores:
me: -13
dad: -12

 

[keltik]

I can't believe that this still comes up.

 

[Aim For The Chains]

tell them to get a theory, ghost, ibex or vaccine instead.

I have friends that are new to the sport and I want to give them the best suggestions possible. I just wonder what other opinions are out there.

The best suggestion possible would be finding a disc and plastic which they just like the feel of and is not super OS or fast. Too many buzzz/roc like mids out now to limit just to those 2 discs IMO.

 

[jedeye]

Buzzz is straighter, better for a newb IMO, also cheap & relatively easy to find in Z plastic - perfect for a new player, who will be hitting a lot of trees
I believe the best (easy to obtain) 2nd disc you can buy on day 1 is a Z Buzzz in 160-165g range (to save your base plastic putter from getting tree beat). It's that or a premium plastic second putter.

 

[freestateflyer]

Flip a coin their both good disc. Get one now, and the other later. If the bug hits their going to have a dozen or more pretty quick anyway.

 

[Kodachrome]

Get them a Max weight z comet instead of you ask me.

 

[DiscFifty]

Z Plastic ftw. Start out with the Buzz SS, then add a regular Buzz and finally add a Buzz OS. Those 3 discs will allow you to shape pretty much any line you can dream of.

 

[Aim For The Chains]

Get them a Max weight z comet instead of you ask me.

you mean N theory at mid 170s to high 160s? :hfive:

 

[mark996]

Started with a Z Buzzz, went to a Champion Roc3, went back to my Z buzzz shortly after. The Roc3 was beat in, just never felt right for me so I traded it off for a few drivers. If you're a fresh newb, go with the Buzzz in my opinion, great flyer and you can do pretty much anything with it. Also may check out the Truth, I bought one a few weeks back and the buzzz hardly sees playing time anymore.

 

[liverbuzzz]

It depends on what your friends goals are. If he wants to take disc golf somewhat seriously and get better then he should probably start with a roc and/or comet. These discs are slow and really need some good releases to get the best out of them. I personally have used all three (comet Buzzz and roc) but I tossed the rocs because I don't like the multiple stages of wear philosophy when it comes to base plastic. Sometimes I'd have shots missing simply because certain discs were not as broken in. I switched to discraft mids and never looked back. Comet fell out of my back simply because I carry three mids that cover everything the comet can do and a putter that handles those pretty touch shots.

As far as Buzzz being inconsistent? I've really only seen it between different plastic types and weights. I've handled a few esp Buzzz and they all flew the same. Same thing with z.

Also you could look into the mako, I couldn't find a buzzz at my local pias (shocking but they are fairly disorganized and buy a lot of discs from a lot of companies)... So I bought my bro a mako and he loves it.

 

[grotto]

I would second the Mako for a first disc. I think a Panther, Coyote or Comet are good suggestions too.

 

[mattc]

Buzzz.

 

[DanJon]

The Buzzz will offer a cleaner release for new players who aren't used to a bead.

They are also more forgiving to bad form/torque.

 

[DavidSauls]

Heck, if they're beginners, the inconsistencies in their game will outweigh the differences between these discs. Just getting them any decent midrange is a step in the right direction, one that a lot of beginners skip. It's not as if they'll be committed to whichever disc for the rest of their disc golf career.