Bfowler with some serious, applicable insight into TEAM Trilogy. Thank you. Great points, and I feel could end the discussion right there. Truth without criticism...you're a better man than I, bfowler. Thanks for the post.
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I wish a lot of the media and advertising folks would realize that there's a point where the walking talking billboards start to turn off potential new customers to their products with their zombie cult like behavior.I work in media and advertising as part of my job. Building your brand is lot like building a cult. You want your customers to be cult like in spreading your brand and thus increasing your brand awareness and thus sales. When a company can "trick" or "convince" their customers that being walking, talking billboard that are exclusive to them is the thing to do it's a big win.
Precisely the company I was thinking of as an example. Thank you. Proud to say that I've never bought an iAnything and probably never will even if I live to be 300, and Apple can largely thank the hipster tools that compose 80+% of their customer base and their snotty elitist attitudes for that.Apple is a genius at this.
so what I'm understanding here is that Team Trilogy is the AmWay of disc golf?
Never said "have to". I said you ask your members to do those thing. Actually you define it as a responsibility.
Why you choose to hate or care what people think they are doing or who they are "representing" is something you should ask yourself.
I'll start simple: How did Team Trilogy get started, and why?
It's already been established that the three manufacturers were not at all involved in creating this club, so what motivation did the creators have?
We've already discussed, at length, the discounts from DD. But certainly the club was not formed simply on the hopes that they could get cheap plastic as a result.
The creators are certainly not earning any profit, and Dusty has made it clear that he's not getting any sort of personal gain off this endeavor.
There's been a lot of talk about being able to network with other Trilogy throwers. But the FB fan page existed before Team Trilogy, was it really necessary to create another club with even more exclusion??
Of course, I ask all these questions despite the fact that I think I already know the answer...
The club is entirely focused on PDGA play. You have to use your Trilogy lineup in PDGA tournaments, and you have to be a PDGA member. There's been mention of some sort of competition between members. It seems likely that this is done through some sort of comparison of PDGA performance. The club's leadership can track PDGA play much more easily than league or unsanctioned, so that's the focus.
So how does this aspect of the team work? What sorts of prizes are the winners getting? What does it take to be competitive within the team?
If this is really the main focus of the team, and the reason it was created, why not publicize it better?
There are two local guys that I know of that switched out their entire bags so that they could join "Team Trilogy". They did this so that they could get on a "sponsored team". They had shirts made, and even posted an acceptance speech of sorts to thank their new sponsor on Facebook. For months they were constantly gushing about their discs, and their team.
Both, while not very good golfers to begin with, struggled in competition even more than previously. After several poor showings both proclaimed on the book that they were going back to mixed bags, and that the whole "Team Trilogy" thing wasn't what they were expecting, and was a silly pipe dream.
This story wasn't meant as an argument one way or the other. I just thought it was pertinent to the conversation at hand.
There are two local guys that I know of that switched out their entire bags so that they could join "Team Trilogy". They did this so that they could get on a "sponsored team". They had shirts made, and even posted an acceptance speech of sorts to thank their new sponsor on Facebook. For months they were constantly gushing about their discs, and their team.
Both, while not very good golfers to begin with, struggled in competition even more than previously. After several poor showings both proclaimed on the book that they were going back to mixed bags, and that the whole "Team Trilogy" thing wasn't what they were expecting, and was a silly pipe dream.
This story wasn't meant as an argument one way or the other. I just thought it was pertinent to the conversation at hand.
I think you're confusing good old fashioned teasing with hate and caring. Most of the negativity is not because people are offended by, or hate, or care about the team. They're just making fun of the team because the entire concept seems silly. By getting defensive, you only fan the flames further.
You're pretty much right on every account except another major reason to ask that people who join are in the PDGA is because a goal of the team is to promote the growth of disc golf all over. Not brands but the sport. Kind of a conjunction of the DD motto of grow the sport. It's not "grow the trilogy" it's just getting more people out there to become bigger. The pdga is really the only sanctioned body that helps promote that so that is a big reason it is part of membership to team trilogy. Along with the tracking of performance like you said.
I'm sure Dusty can say why that is not being "rammed down people's throats" like people claim the rest of it is but for me it's simply a few reasons. It's year one. Not even a full year yet. The website is being built. More info will be out there to people so they know what it's about. It's not being pushed out to everyone because look at what you people already assume about it? The people who already post on the fan page are likely the target audience so it's talked about there and info on how to join is shared there. Everything else about the competition and points between team members is on the actual team facebook group and there is no reason to make that public to anyone who isn't on the team and participating. It's not heavily advertised because of reasons you see on this very thread and because it's completely OPTIONAL and not about selling discs to anyone.
I'll start simple: How did Team Trilogy get started, and why?
It's already been established that the three manufacturers were not at all involved in creating this club, so what motivation did the creators have?
We've already discussed, at length, the discounts from DD. But certainly the club was not formed simply on the hopes that they could get cheap plastic as a result.
The creators are certainly not earning any profit, and Dusty has made it clear that he's not getting any sort of personal gain off this endeavor.
There's been a lot of talk about being able to network with other Trilogy throwers. But the FB fan page existed before Team Trilogy, was it really necessary to create another club with even more exclusion??
Of course, I ask all these questions despite the fact that I think I already know the answer...
The club is entirely focused on PDGA play. You have to use your Trilogy lineup in PDGA tournaments, and you have to be a PDGA member. There's been mention of some sort of competition between members. It seems likely that this is done through some sort of comparison of PDGA performance. The club's leadership can track PDGA play much more easily than league or unsanctioned, so that's the focus.
So how does this aspect of the team work? What sorts of prizes are the winners getting? What does it take to be competitive within the team?
If this is really the main focus of the team, and the reason it was created, why not publicize it better?
I'll start simple: How did Team Trilogy get started, and why? One guy dreaming how cool it would be if Lat64/WS/DD fans could be on a team together regardless of skill level (why and motivation - I think you mean the same thing there). He brought on six other people to construct a platform and outline to see if it was feasible after getting an okay from the three companies so as to not offend accidently (how).
It's already been established that the three manufacturers were not at all involved in creating this club (I still prefer team), so what motivation did the creators have?
We've already discussed, at length, the discounts from DD. But certainly the club was not formed simply on the hopes that they could get cheap plastic as a result. Correct, discounts were never what the basis of the team would be, that was community of throwers who could support each other while working to grow the brands and game. Discounts were just a nice bonus.
The creators are certainly not earning any profit, and Dusty has made it clear that he's not getting any sort of personal gain off this endeavor. correct
There's been a lot of talk about being able to network with other Trilogy throwers. But the FB fan page existed before Team Trilogy, was it really necessary to create another club with even more exclusion?? If the only exclusion is, we want the Team to be 100% throwers and the fan page to be open to anyone who wants to talk about any trilogy disc then yes. Those are two different things.
Of course, I ask all these questions despite the fact that I think I already know the answer...This is always a dangerous statement, deciding you know several peoples intent better than they do.
The club is entirely focused on PDGA play no. You have to use your Trilogy lineup in PDGA tournaments, and you have to be a PDGA member true and true. There's been mention of some sort of competition between members not just mention, there is. It seems likely that this is done through some sort of comparison of PDGA performance we track PDGA performance, but constructed our own points based system to stress qualities that we thought were more in line with the goals of Team Trilogy. The club's leadership can track PDGA play much more easily than league or unsanctioned true, so that's the focus false. The reason we stress PDGA involvement is because PDGA is the largest organizing body in disc golf. Yes, we want to help the PDGA grow, so the PDGA can keep pushing for more growth in the sport (I should say that is my interpretation of the idea)
So how does this aspect of the team work? What sorts of prizes are the winners getting? What does it take to be competitive within the team?
If this is really the main focus of the team, and the reason it was created, why not publicize it better? Because it isn't the main focus of the team, in fact it's a very small focus of the team. It's like a fun side game.
There are two local guys that I know of that switched out their entire bags so that they could join "Team Trilogy". They did this so that they could get on a "sponsored team". They had shirts made, and even posted an acceptance speech of sorts to thank their new sponsor on Facebook. For months they were constantly gushing about their discs, and their team.
Both, while not very good golfers to begin with, struggled in competition even more than previously. After several poor showings both proclaimed on the book that they were going back to mixed bags, and that the whole "Team Trilogy" thing wasn't what they were expecting, and was a silly pipe dream.
This story wasn't meant as an argument one way or the other. I just thought it was pertinent to the conversation at hand.
There are two local guys that I know of that switched out their entire bags so that they could join "Team Trilogy". They did this so that they could get on a "sponsored team". They had shirts made, and even posted an acceptance speech of sorts to thank their new sponsor on Facebook. For months they were constantly gushing about their discs, and their team.
Both, while not very good golfers to begin with, struggled in competition even more than previously. After several poor showings both proclaimed on the book that they were going back to mixed bags, and that the whole "Team Trilogy" thing wasn't what they were expecting, and was a silly pipe dream.
This story wasn't meant as an argument one way or the other. I just thought it was pertinent to the conversation at hand.