I've only thrown an Ascent a hand full of times. Seemed a lot harder to throw for the results, plus the grip was just total ****. They say that plastic is grippy. I had more slips with it than any other plastic, champion grips better than that. Plus, if it is as durable as they say, it'll take as long or longer than champion to beat in. Plus I don't see it beating in evenly and flying well. It just seemed quite stable, which is ok if that's what it's meant for. But, just seemed like it was on the very stable side of Eagles Xs. And, as I said, it's power to result ratio seemed bad. Can't say I liked it at all honestly.