[Question] What flies like a Ti Mantis???

[Vorpaljesus]

Champ leo or a crappy star teebird depending on power. Tl is not a bad answer

 

[zendragon]

The Ace Race I played in didn't have anything heavier than 164 and to put Innova's numbers on it, I would have called them 7 5 -1 2.

I found a used 175 though that was closer to a Teebird, a little more HSS, otherwise similar.

 

[threevok]

OP - how far, pray tell, are you throwing your Mantis?

 

[PMantle]

The two I had were overstable. Pretty much Champ Teebirds.

 

[bcr123psu]

Have you tried looking up the Mantis in the inbounds Matrix?

http://www.inboundsdiscgolf.com/content/?page_id=431&id=MR1010109283746O345876O777921OO#6-5

 

[AlexJensen86]

I don't know how heavy everyone elses were, but mine were the purple ones (I think each color was a different weight range) and id say a tl or fresh champ leopard would give similar reults. But banshee or teerex? I cant even fathom that having only thrown three purples and a green.

 

[PMantle]

But banshee or teerex? I cant even fathom that having only thrown three purples and a green.

All from our event were like this. Nothing like a Leo or TL.

 

[steve a]

Have you tried looking up the Mantis in the inbounds Matrix?

http://www.inboundsdiscgolf.com/content/?page_id=431&id=MR1010109283746O345876O777921OO#6-5

It doesn't specify which mold the flight chart is based off of. Is it for the ace race prototypes or the reconfigured production run?

 

[AlexJensen86]

That's nuts, what colors were the super beefy ones?

 

[PMantle]

That's nuts, what colors were the super beefy ones?

Ours were mostly black and gold, but I think there were a handful of blue.

 

[Mike C]

I get the impression even a Ti Mantis might not fly like a Ti Mantis

FWIW I've thrown the production Z Mantis and it was understable.

 

[PMantle]

Yeah, even Discraft admitted a flight change when it went into production.

 

[j0atz]

The TI ones are definitely more OS than the production Z. The ones I got from the AceRace were in the 160s...the brand new z I threw was 170s and it flipped up and turned with ease.

I haven't thrown them enough to give a good comparison of another mold....but I will say you could probably find many molds that would fly similarly. Champ Valk does come to mind though....They aren't as understable as everyone says....at least the ones I have thrown.

 

[THUGNIFICENT763]

TI Mantis seems nearly irreplaceable and trust me I am a 2013 Ace Race disc fanatic. I think if you had to pick a disc from Innova you could say maybe a Teerex in terms of flight but the feel of the disc is totally different. I think maybe the most stable glow Eagle-X you could find could also come close but again the feel would be off.

No. Just... No. The original TR mold Teerex is an epic beefhook that makes an Xcaliber look understable in comparison. The TRX mold is less stable than the TR mold, but still, it is head and shoulders more OS than a Mantis, and also a couple of speed classes higher, not to mention. I repeat, no. In all honesty, the closest thing to a Z Mantis would be a Champion Viking.

 

[j0atz]

No. Just... No. The original TR mold Teerex is an epic beefhook that makes an Xcaliber look understable in comparison. The TRX mold is less stable than the TR mold, but still, it is head and shoulders more OS than a Mantis, and also a couple of speed classes higher, not to mention. I repeat, no. In all honesty, the closest thing to a Z Mantis would be a Champion Viking.

Yeah...definitely no where close to a TeeRex speed & stability.

Good call on the Viking though....I can see some comparison there.

 

[LeBryson James]

Excuse me. I was referring to the current run Mantises. Current runs fly like Leopards.

 

[Bigbaddad]

I only use it for 150-250' forehand slight turnover-straight shots.

 

[Mr. Butlertron]

Would like to replace the Ti Mantis in my bag for another company. Prefer Innova. What flies like the mantis?

I got 4 varying from 164-172. Based on how they fly, I'd say they resemble an Eagle-L the most.

 

[Puckstopper]

^ The mantis and Valk are nothing alike. Where do you come up with this stuff?

Less posting, more discing. Have you been once this year?

BigSky or Halcon or whoever and I have had some differences over the years, but he's not wrong depending on which Ti Mantis you got.

I played with friends in Michigan last weekend. We had a guy in our group who was throwing what looked like a Ti Heat, and on very similar lines. When I asked him where he tracked down a Ti Heat he looked at me like I was crazy and very slowly and carefully explained that it wasn't the Heat, the Heat was from LAST YEAR's Ace Race and that this was a MANTIS from the 2013 Ace Race... At which point I pulled out my significantly less domey Ti Mantis and blew his mind. Apparently all the discs from the Ace Race he played in were domey, whereas all the ones from the Ace Race I participated in were flatter, and flew a lot like Eagle-X's instead of understable like a Heat or a Valk. I think it's a case of YMMV.

OP, if you have a flatter Ti Mantis, get an Champ Eagle or MVP Servo. If it's domier, Star Valk isn't a bad choice, or nearly as inaccurate as others seem to think.

 

[JedV]

Based on what was posted about the AR Mantis, there was significant variation in the discs that were distributed from event to event. Some were overstable, some weren't.