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JR said:Lamp have you beaten in a D Zone? That may work as the Zone SS.
Sean40474 said:I hit submit before I was done, I'd like to see a fairway driver that'd compete with all the other major ones out now. I like the Cyclone, but I'd like to see a smaller diameter one myself.
I find none of these points to be true...rusch_bag said:I think stalkers are pretty average if not below. No glide, inconsistent, can throw a mid just as far. They are like a mid in driver form that don't have the form needed to throw a mid.
rusch_bag said:I think stalkers are pretty average if not below. No glide, inconsistent, can throw a mid just as far. They are like a mid in driver form that don't have the form needed to throw a mid.
agreed. partially the reason i dropped stalkers after switching to buzzz's. my buzzz's were going the same distance as them. to make the stalker go far,they definitely needed height. so yes,they did lack glide. and inconsistancies were definitely there. i had proto z's,glows,and regular z's. the regular z's were all over the place. i had some flippy,some stable,some beefy. glows were the most consistant but still ,none the less, lacked a few things.rusch_bag said:I think stalkers are pretty average if not below. No glide, inconsistent, can throw a mid just as far. They are like a mid in driver form that don't have the form needed to throw a mid.
discspeed said:rusch_bag said:I think stalkers are pretty average if not below. No glide, inconsistent, can throw a mid just as far. They are like a mid in driver form that don't have the form needed to throw a mid.
I agree 100%. I also think that the ESP cyclone is one of the worst examples of consistency in recent Discraft history...It could be anything from midrange slow and straight like a slightly faster beat Roc, or it could be a much faster and overstable disc. They've only ran them a few times as well. I think the XL is a good and proven mold that works well across all their plastics. It is a very straight disc, so I think they really need something to compliment that...Something that would hold a turn easy and glide, but have a decent fade at the end as well. Kind of like the River I've been throwing...
same, all this cyclone talk is making me consider putting it back in the bag. they need to do a run of good pro d ones.Peot said:discspeed said:rusch_bag said:I think stalkers are pretty average if not below. No glide, inconsistent, can throw a mid just as far. They are like a mid in driver form that don't have the form needed to throw a mid.
I agree 100%. I also think that the ESP cyclone is one of the worst examples of consistency in recent Discraft history...It could be anything from midrange slow and straight like a slightly faster beat Roc, or it could be a much faster and overstable disc. They've only ran them a few times as well. I think the XL is a good and proven mold that works well across all their plastics. It is a very straight disc, so I think they really need something to compliment that...Something that would hold a turn easy and glide, but have a decent fade at the end as well. Kind of like the River I've been throwing...
I must have bought one of the magic ones... started off with a notch of LSS and a pretty healthy fade and beat into working all kinds of delicious turnover, h-flip and flex lines