Hey, Mando, can you easily list the course ratings and favorite percentages that you came up with separately?
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Hit the trusted review filter for reviews, it will give you a separate rating.
Then go to course info and divide the # favorited by the # played.
This gives you the % favorited. Anything over 40% is really good.
Add that # to the TR rating for the total. So, the lion's share of this number still hinges on the rating,but the %favorited gives you a little extra feel for the likability of the course for lack of a better word and the TR removes some bias. I would actually prefer course played over TR as a filter, but too much work.
As was mentioned earlier, some folks don't use the favorited feature at all and others overuse it. Personally, I think favoriting 10% of the courses played is about right.
It would be 4.5 plus .40 for a value of 4.9.Thanks, but I'm missing something. If a rating is say 4.5 and the favorite % is 40%, wouldn't that be 45.5%? And your numbers are in the 5 range. Clarification? (And I was actually hoping that you already had the numbers to just copy and paste into the thread. LOL!)
And I apparently agree with your 10% idea. 79 courses played and 8 favorites!
It would be 4.5 plus .40 for a value of 4.9.
All my numbers are written on paper and I only did 75 or so, sorry.
I'm at 30%. Quality over quantity.Personally, I think favoriting 10% of the courses played is about right.
You got way too greedy on the first 100. The next 100 are going to be a letdown if you stay in the east.I'm at 30%. Quality over quantity.
Depends on the new courses going in.You got way too greedy on the first 100. The next 100 are going to be a letdown if you stay in the east.
I think that for advanced (like Dave242) and pro level players,there may not be any difference between best and favorite and even lower level players may equate challenge (getting beat down) as fun. But as a rec level player with not much distance,I can't play a course like Iron Hill from the back tees and not get frustrated when I play a long uphill hole like 17? Not frustrated with the course, but with my lack of distance. Even though it's one of the best courses I've played, it's not one of the most fun for me. Unfortunately, I haven't played the shorter layout, so it could be my best and favorite.How can anyone's "best" be any different than their "favorite"?
I agree somewhat with this but not totally. I do rate courses based on what I like and reviews are of course sunjective to begin with but... I do base some my numerical ratings on objective things. For instance a course could be a fantastic design for me and I love to play there but it has no amenities, bad tees, navigation issues etc. I would feel obliged to knock the rating number down some even though I would love to play the course. Conversely an average design in my mind but with proshop, restrooms, great tees etc could get a high score. Of course I would describe these courses and reasoning in my written analysis.How can anyone's "best" be any different than their "favorite"?
The only valid reason I can think of is sentimentality - fond memories of the course you learned to play on could make a course your favorite even if now you think the course is nothing special in and of itself.
I was waiting for someone to spot the common denominator;all private courses except Idlewild. It's not really a level playing field, comparing public to private.After reading the superlative sharing thread, which is great,I've been thinking about a formula to identify not just the best courses, but also factor in the favorites. This is what I came up with;
Trusted reviewers ratings plus percent favorited for a best-favorite total.
I used TR ratings because they eliminate the local drive-bys and are easy to pull up.
I included temporary courses and extinct courses to see how they all would stack up.
So, here are the results so far;
Flip City 5.4
Flyboy Aviation 5.4
Birds of Paradise 5.3
Black Jack 5.3
Selah Lakeside 5.27
Idlewild 5.24
Maple Hill 5.18
Blue Gill 5.18
Bucksnort 5.18
Highbridge Hills-Blueberry 5.15
Sugaree 5.15
Harmon Hills 5.13
Beaver Ranch 5.13
Gran Canyon 5.11
Well it's not just the atmosphere, it's the lack of traffic(better chance for solitude...as well as lack of road noise), and most importantly, the lack of constraints that public courses usually have to deal with when approving a design with other park users.Good call on that Mando. You private course owners deserve a shout out for sure...in even more ways that internet ratings and favorite button clicks!
Thinking about this, the atmosphere provided by many/most private courses makes for a more special visit.....independent of the course itself. For instance, I think the course at Flip City is a 4.0, but I totally think the experience and the owner makes it a 5.0+. I can therefore easily see myself favoriting Flip, and that being consistent with it not being in my top echelon of courses.
So, if people thought like me (and many don't) your formula would be to the benefit to the private courses.
MyRank Grade DGCR Fav% played fav Mando Rank Course Name
1 100 4.32 29% 252 73 4.61 9 Winter Park
2 99 4.43 35% 804 281 4.78 5 Lincoln Ridge Park
3 98 4.00 18% 320 57 4.18 18 Fox Chase
4 98 4.42 24% 680 164 4.66 6 IDGC - Steady Ed Headrick Memorial
5 98 4.04 17% 593 102 4.21 17 Robert L. Smith Park
6 97 4.17 17% 730 125 4.34 15 Nevin Park DGC
7 97 4.31 18% 395 73 4.49 12 Leviathan
9 97 3.75 9% 291 27 3.84 25 Highbridge Hills - The Bear
10 96 4.27 21% 224 47 4.48 13 Magnolia DGC
11 96 4.17 24% 409 98 4.41 14 Rogers Lakewood Park
12 96 3.41 18% 315 56 3.59 29 Yadkin County Park
13 96 4.32 31% 309 96 4.63 7 Camden Park - II
14 95 3.57 21% 629 132 3.78 26 East Roswell Park
15 95 4.59 39% 222 86 4.98 2 Wildcat Bluff
16 95 3.83 15% 272 42 3.98 24 Tower Ridge Park - I
17 94 3.42 7% 336 25 3.49 30 Lake Olmstead Park
18 94 3.50 10% 227 23 3.60 28 Foothills DGC
19 94 4.10 14% 587 80 4.24 16 Charlie Vettiner Park
20 94 3.92 19% 768 148 4.11 19 Dretzka Park
21 94 4.35 28% 499 139 4.63 8 Castle Hayne Park
22 94 4.57 39% 492 192 4.96 3 Moraine State Park
23 94 4.68 25% 497 122 4.93 4 Highbridge Hills - Granite Ridge
25 93 4.38 21% 1257 265 4.59 10 Renaissance Park - Original
26 93 4.38 21% 1257 265 4.59 11 Renaissance Park - Gold
27 93 3.92 17% 561 97 4.09 21 Lemon Lake County Park - Silver
28 93 3.87 21% 605 126 4.08 22 Brown Deer DGC
29 93 3.81 29% 1173 342 4.10 20 Golden Gate Park DGC
31 93 3.92 10% 199 19 4.02 23 FDR State Park
32 93 3.65 12% 457 55 3.77 27 The Scrapyard
33 93 4.84 31% 595 183 5.15 1 Highbridge Hills - Blueberry Hill
I was waiting for someone to spot the common denominator;all private courses except Idlewild. It's not really a level playing field, comparing public to private.
I think pay-to-play should count the equivalent of a private course for this exercise. IDGC and Lemon Lake, for example.