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[Innova] For the love of the Bird! ..Teebird that is!
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mikeykline
Birdie Member
Newest teebird to the line up, Champ teebird 171
goaliedavid
Newbie
I have a question for those teebird experts. When talking about 11x champ teebirds. What's the difference between the cal mold teebirds and the ca mold teebirds. Do the cal ones tend to be more overstable? Or what?
jcassidy1990
Reptilian Disc Golf
CAL tends to be more OS.
goaliedavid
Newbie
And how much do each (cal and ca) tend to sell for? Or is that question for another thread?
tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
The CAL tooling is the older of the two. It's usually most easily identified by being a vibrant, clear, candy plastic. They tended to mold up with less shoulder and decently flat. They do tend to be more overstable than the newer, CA tooled 11Xs. The thing to remember, though, is that there was more than one run of TeeBird during the 11X era so these are generalities more than gospel.
Also, CALs tend to carry a higher price point than the CAs. Can't speak to decent figures though, sorry.
Something else that needs to be said is that the current runs of JL TeeBirds are every bit as good as the old 11Xs. Save your money and build a stock of what you can get off the shelf.
Also, CALs tend to carry a higher price point than the CAs. Can't speak to decent figures though, sorry.
Something else that needs to be said is that the current runs of JL TeeBirds are every bit as good as the old 11Xs. Save your money and build a stock of what you can get off the shelf.
ncgamedog
Birdie Member
CAL molds are genreally much flatter and definately FASTER than CA's and current TBs.
I'm a CAL feind, but the differences are subtle.
I'm a CAL feind, but the differences are subtle.
Obviously there are many variables but assuming max weight, no fly-dye, good condition...
CAL - ~$40-50 and beyond depending on color/stamp
CA - ~$30-40ish. Maybe a little higher depending on color/stamp. Definitely not as sought after as the CAL's.
QFT.
mikeykline
Birdie Member
JL TeeBirds are the Steve Brinster jolly launcher TeeBirds, correct?
tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
No, the stock stamps. The Brinsters are solid too though.
tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
Some of them are.
I'll take your old 11x's
Want to take a chance on a $1000 Trotterbox?
Oooooo. That might be a little out of my budget at the moment!
But I'm sure there is some GOOD stuff in there.
pjhayes7
Double Eagle Member
Is there a way to tell the JL plastic from the older champ? Is it just that they are a little more candy colored and a little more pliable? I know the molds with the Roc3/Tern style stamp are JL, but it is the other molds that still have the old style stamp that I am curious about.
ncgamedog
Birdie Member
Pretty much all champ on shelves now is JL
JL plastic is very transparent and stiff.
tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
This. It is usually transparent and stiff like Anon mentioned, but really Jolly Launcher is just the term they're using for their current Champion plastic blend. Erich at the Proshop told me that over the phone, and I have no reason to believe he was lying to me. I asked him about it because I got an opaque (and wonderfully pearly!) Circle Stamp Champ Cheetah and asked if it was really JL.
The earliest JL was very stiff, but I have a JL TB that is a few months old that has a bit of give.
Jay Dub posted a picture of a JL Beast a few years back that imo is the quintessential example of jolly launcher. Let's see if I can find it..
