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I loved the Groove, but I hate Innova. Here's why I think they suck(just my opinions) and wont buy their's anymore:
1)All their new discs are too fast for 99% of players, but they aren't pro focused either
2)The new Champion plastic is horrid. What happened to the old stuff that didn't shatter?
3)They are out of ideas like fast food and film ind. Just twists on remakes of BS now
4)I met one of their "sponsored professionasl." He wasn't good at the game and was a dickhead to boot
5)The only good thing about Innova discs is the graphics on DX plastic, but that's over shadowed by DX being one time use only.
6)Too much variance in discs and plastics. Only options are candle wax, pencil eraser, and acrylic. The molds also are inconsistant and this valk might throw like a wraith while that valk flys like a sidewinder.
These are just my thoughts, and I am a Latt 64 man myself. I don't own any, but I do like DGA as well. It's a forum full of armchair quarterbacks and backseat drivers, so let the unmitigated drama begin.
PS The Groove was the last good thing Innova made
I wasnt necessarily giving the original poster advice. i was just chiming in on other high speed drivers. i would say scrap the wraith, vulcan, and the groove. im also not on board with noobs shouldn't throw drivers either, id say grab yourself a valk, leopard or teebird and let 'er rip!
as for the apes, they are not as stable as they are cracked up to be, at least the batch of 25 first run's that my club got
I loved the Groove, but I hate Innova. Here's why I think they suck(just my opinions) and wont buy their's anymore:
1)All their new discs are too fast for 99% of players, but they aren't pro focused either
2)The new Champion plastic is horrid. What happened to the old stuff that didn't shatter?
3)They are out of ideas like fast food and film ind. Just twists on remakes of BS now
4)I met one of their "sponsored professionasl." He wasn't good at the game and was a dickhead to boot
5)The only good thing about Innova discs is the graphics on DX plastic, but that's over shadowed by DX being one time use only.
6)Too much variance in discs and plastics. Only options are candle wax, pencil eraser, and acrylic. The molds also are inconsistant and this valk might throw like a wraith while that valk flys like a sidewinder.
These are just my thoughts, and I am a Latt 64 man myself. I don't own any, but I do like DGA as well. It's a forum full of armchair quarterbacks and backseat drivers, so let the unmitigated drama begin.
PS The Groove was the last good thing Innova made
The Groove is what Insane Clown Posse is to Hip Hop.
The stupid analogy I like to use regarding Innova's speed rating is video games.
You start at level 1 because you need to know how to beat level one before you play level 10. Sure, you can type in some code and start at level 10, but will you really play the level well? Probably not, you will find some makeshift way to eventually get through it while struggling. Its best to just play the game from start to finish, and start slow. Same thing with discs. Start with low speeds, be confident with them, and work your way higher.
Throw a putter 150-200 feet in a straight line, then do the same thing (farther) with a mid. Then (farther) with a fairway.
I loved the Groove, but I hate Innova. Here's why I think they suck(just my opinions) and wont buy their's anymore:
1)All their new discs are too fast for 99% of players, but they aren't pro focused either
like the wedge, yeti pro aviar, mako, dart
2)The new Champion plastic is horrid. What happened to the old stuff that didn't shatter?
I have never seen a champion disc shatter personally. I have seen shattered CE on the course though. also their champion is the same as everyone elses Z, opto and whatnot
3)They are out of ideas like fast food and film ind. Just twists on remakes of BS now
I will agree with this to an extent
4)I met one of their "sponsored professionasl." He wasn't good at the game and was a dickhead to boot
I'm gonna leave this one alone
5)The only good thing about Innova discs is the graphics on DX plastic, but that's over shadowed by DX being one time use only.
im gonna disagree here. look at the orc, starfire, viking, valkyrie, polecat, birdie, etc. the graphics are the worst part of DX
6)Too much variance in discs and plastics. Only options are candle wax, pencil eraser, and acrylic. The molds also are inconsistant and this valk might throw like a wraith while that valk flys like a sidewinder.
this is personal experience, and cannot be backed up by anything. How do you know they change the mold?
These are just my thoughts, and I am a Latt 64 man myself. I don't own any, but I do like DGA as well. It's a forum full of armchair quarterbacks and backseat drivers, so let the unmitigated drama begin.
PS The Groove was the last good thing Innova made
haha, ohhh
im gonna disagree here. look at the orc, starfire, viking, valkyrie, polecat, birdie, etc. the graphics are the worst part of DX
roc is good