It's quite possible that if I threw a DX Destroyer, that I would get it out as far as the Photon. But I've thrown the Vulcan, which is supposed to be good for beginners and it can't hold a candle to the Photon in distance, and especially in comfort. I've also thrown a Blizzard Boss, which was way too much disc, and again, the rim felt horrible.
So yea, for me it IS a game changer. But you can only compare it to what you've thrown.
Yeah, it is definitely relative to what molds and plastics and weights you've found. Agreed. But I feel iike
most of us who have been searching for a good DD in this over-saturated market of discs will have already found one they like.
Mine don't go 50' further than my Quasars, but I did have my longest throws ever in my field where I practice, and at Renny Gold.
I've thrown Quasars since they were brand new...I think it was 2011 or 2012? Anyways, I know that mold well and I've cycled it for years. That I could go out to Renny the first day I've thrown Photons and throw them further than a faster mold I know way better...that says a lot to me.
Game changer? No. Extra D? Yep. At this point in my game I've just assumed any extra D I can get would be from tailwinds and form tweaks, so it was a nice surprise to have a disc do the work for once.
That is kinda crazy, immediately more distance with the Photon... I believe you, I just feel like that will not be the majority of people's experiences.
Too late to edit my post, but I wanted to ask you about your Worlds. Out of the two I'm throwing, which do your 4 resemble? I liked the pink one, but wasn't sure if that was the normal flight or if the flippier white one was.
Definitely the pink one. The white is definitely unlike any World I've thrown. I throw TP Worlds and they've been coming out flat and more understable, but not that understable. I like the older domier ones. To be clear, I have 4, but generally I bag 2 of those, complemented by Giants.
The "game changer" part is the fact that MVP can mold these down into lower weights and still get a consistent flight pattern with healthy fade at the end of the flight. I think that is pretty exceptional, and might be a game changer down the road, to some extent. I'm not saying this is going to revolutionize anything, because I don't think it's revolutionary, but it is a step forward in disc technology. I see these Fission Photons as the discs that are actually fulfilling the promise that Blizzard plastic made a few years ago.
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Overall, these discs are shorter than my Destroyers. Sometimes by 50' or so, which was surprising to me.
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This will probably be more common for us humans with arms that can't activate superGYRO™ like Mike C. Also, people on here have to compare apples with apples. If this is the first lightweight disc you've thrown, then maybe thats the main reason its going farther.
With regards to your comment on lower weights, I agree up to a point. We have seen that many of these under and around 140 are substantially more understable, which is very different from my 162. So yes, good job MVP, a step in the right direction (towards perfectly stable 130-class discs, I guess, if you want that) but we can't say it's perfect when it's not.
Well I'm glad I could spark some actually interesting and discerning discussion on an MVP thread. It's easy to look at the MVP DD release in a vacuum and say it is amazing and the best thing ever but there are other great companies out there that have great driver as well.
As I've said to JCassidy, I'll say to you (most of you):
Thanks! Your ability to handle something other than a glowing review of anything MVP produces is also refreshing!
It is also easy to read a post on here that does something other than sing the praises of the Photon and then attack it based on something unimportant and trivial. Unless someone posts a blatant attack, it is completely unnecessarily to rabidly defend MVP's honor. My original post was quite tame. I trust you know who you are.
