The Inevitable 2024 Pros Switching Sponsors Thread

[Flick Maniac]

As an on-topic reply...

I think Innova is banking on the marketability of Väinö vis a vis his social media following. Dont remind me about Ms. Montgomery (ex Panis)! I know, i know. Väinö has game. This move might revitalize his game even more.

For the kids at home who werent around, anyone remember what the team was that Prodigy was rolled out with? How did they fail with that bunch?? I think thats gotta be the most star studded team ever to be, or ever will.

 

[Sewer bill]

As an on-topic reply...

I think Innova is banking on the marketability of Väinö vis a vis his social media following. Dont remind me about Ms. Montgomery (ex Panis)! I know, i know. Väinö has game. This move might revitalize his game even more.

For the kids at home who werent around, anyone remember what the team was that Prodigy was rolled out with? How did they fail with that bunch?? I think thats gotta be the most star studded team ever to be, or ever will.

I think prodigy failed because they became what they sought to get away from.

 

[TheOtherBill]

Re: early Prodigy team
This isn't basketball, so a high-profile player-driven marketing strategy won't work in DG. Might have been closer to pulling that off during or past-pandemic, but 12 years ago there weren't enough eyeballs to make that idea work. I mean, it was founded by former players, so it's not a total surprise that the players and not the manufacturing was the early focus.

 

[Dcinmd]

Re: early Prodigy team
This isn't basketball, so a high-profile player-driven marketing strategy won't work in DG.

Uh, didn't Discraft just use this strategy the past 5 or 6 years?

 

[TheOtherBill]

"but 12 years ago there weren't enough eyeballs to make that idea work."
so no, Discraft didn't. In fact, 12 years ago they were making domey Zones and missing deliveries to vendors, had very few pros and spent most of their focus on Ultimate.

 

[biscoe]

Uh, didn't Discraft just use this strategy the past 5 or 6 years?

Arguable whether they have signed more than one player who has actually boosted the brand- maybe as many as 3 if you count Paige and Brodie. Either way most of their boost was on Paul's coattails.

 

[itlnstln]

Arguable whether they have signed more than one player who has actually boosted the brand- maybe as many as 3 if you count Paige and Brodie. Either way most of their boost was on Paul's coattails.

Yeah, Discraft 15 years ago, or so, was really a focused on young bombers with maybe a couple of big names (primarily Nate Doss) while Innova had all the heavy hitters. To be fair, Discraft had some good players (MJ and Ron Russel earlier), but it was nothing like Innova's lineup (KC, JK, the Jenkins siblings, the Readings, etc.).

When Paul went to Discraft was when they started running their DG team better, IMO. Now, they seem to be trying to position themselves as the superstar brand while Innova is getting older. That is, if Discmania has anything to say about it

 

[itlnstln]

Just saw this drop for the "Last Howl" from Discmania: Last Howl - Colten Montgomery Signature Series Swirl S-Line PD

Is Colton Montgomery leaving DM? I don't social media, but haven't seen anything otherwise

 

[TheOtherBill]

Might be another company ending underperforming contracts. I thought I saw Kona was going to Europe, not sure he could get that funded by Discmania.

 

[Flick Maniac]

I think prodigy failed because they became what they sought to get away from.

Theres a perfect meme from revenge of the sith for this. You know what Im talking about.

 

[Flick Maniac]

Just saw this drop for the "Last Howl" from Discmania: Last Howl - Colten Montgomery Signature Series Swirl S-Line PD

Is Colton Montgomery leaving DM? I don't social media, but haven't seen anything otherwise

Thats how I read it. I dont have any inside info though. But Discmania (or House of Discs, rather?) has been cutting costs fairly heavy handedly this year

 

[Flick Maniac]

Colten (not ColTON) shared a IG story that said he is not leaving DM. "Last howl" is just related to him moving to the CD1 as signature series disc.

Fwiw the Zeta's moon CD1 was easily the best new disc I threw all 2023

 

[itlnstln]

Colten (not ColTON) shared a IG story that said he is not leaving DM. "Last howl" is just related to him moving to the CD1 as signature series disc.

Fwiw the Zeta's moon CD1 was easily the best new disc I threw all 2023

That's good to hear. The Zeta's Moon is my workhorse; I love that disc. The stock CD1 is a bit too overstable in comparison

 

[Flick Maniac]

Fwiw, although still in an inappropriate thread.
Re: basket design and spitouts

DiscGoldPark changed the baskets at Swedish Open after seeing the coverage. New ones have deeper cages.

 

[mostlynorwegian]

Chain pattern optimization will not be the way this problem is solved. The situation will be improved, if not fully resolved, in another way and it won't be changing to a cone deflector versus chains although they would be more consistent.

Chain pattern, and also chain weight is going to be a better method of fine-tuning a wheel whose only job is to catch things than dong away with the idea altogether. For one reason alone. The sound of hitting the chains is its own satisfaction. How to create a better pattern which discourages the kind of holes certain designs create where a 19-28cm diameter disc can either flow through or get caught by web of resistance that pushes back when said object hits the chains and the impact creates that particular pattern as it stretches to accommodate the disc shape.

 

[runningDoc]

i bet prodigy switches to a model similar to Bandit Running apparel (the track and field athletes who are currently running in all black unbranded apparel) at the olympic trials.

where they give up and coming unsponsored players gear travel money support etc as a grassroots effort help with touring and future sponsorships from the bigger brands as a business model. Bandit actually has sponsored a runner who qualified for paris olympics and got a new major brand sponsorship after.

it seems like prodigy already sort of was that type of business model inadvertently already and now with the kevin jones and others being shepherded into new contracts it might actually be a way to stay alive and move forward.

like if one of the big three wanted to get issac robinson then they could buy out his contract and another sort of finders fee on top of that.

 

[@CD-]

I don't expect much has changed for the regional pro contracts for performance bonuses over the 2020+ years. Maybe a slight increase in monthly tournament/travel stipend. Generally year by year negotiations.

The lower placing touring golfers (up & comer or veterans) are being paid to be sales and spokespeople (vend at flymarts/clinics) and social media presence. Probably some marketing requirements for anyone getting tour series fundraisers.

I don't see a reason for those types of players to sign extended multi-year contracts that could be bought out, especially when they start placing well or gain a greater internet following.

Not like Prodigy and other brands haven't tried getting players to filter up from street team type sponsorships with varied results. High level AM or Q series players might get a 'rookie on tour' contract if they show interest in touring full time.