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Roc Lover said:
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so getting back on track I have some DGC gift certs coming and was thinking about getting some 167-170 rivers, how do those compare to champ ELs of the same weight?
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so getting back on track I have some DGC gift certs coming and was thinking about getting some 167-170 rivers, how do those compare to champ ELs of the same weight?
just got four rivers in today. two gl two opto 165-175. they all fly pretty much the same. they remind me of fresh star tls or fresh pro line leopards right now. pretty stable new, but i can see them getting more dynamic as they season in like the aforementioned discs. i let some big arms at the course throw them and they had the same results. one of the things that surprised me the most is that even when i shanked it and got a bad drive, it was consistently like 30 feet further than a comparable terrible drive.
unrelated: also got some flows in, and holy shit they are perfect out of the box. they are comets you can lay in to.
big ups to hoey for some choice discs.
unrelated: also got some flows in, and holy shit they are perfect out of the box. they are comets you can lay in to.
big ups to hoey for some choice discs.
Hoey1
Double Eagle Member
I've thrown both, and I would say my 170 Opto behaves similarly to an EL... both have a nice, slow, gradual turn.
I think I need a couple grams more and I'd be able to throw it with a bit more confidence for some more distance, once things start to open up a bit.
I think I need a couple grams more and I'd be able to throw it with a bit more confidence for some more distance, once things start to open up a bit.
kcbill
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Roc Lover said:
just curious, but why?
i have both, had the opto first, and it was a lot more stable than i expected. but now that it's seasoned it has the HSS of a flimsy valk when you really get on it but still has enough LSS to make it useful.
brand new the GL doesn't have nearly the HSS the opto had brand new, but flies really, really nice. i worry it will be a useless pos once it starts to wear like the opto has.
honestly, after not much seasoning, i don't know how guys throw a river on a straight line, even with a hyzer angle. i need quite a bit of room to get it's full distance. but it's my understable D driver for sure. it's no fairway driver for me.
my GL when new was completely different and throwing them back to back i just liked the opto better. It was stiff but out of the box it was like uber leopard and the GL was almost Teebirdish, it was so stable and just not what i was wanting. Its better now, theyre almost identical in flight but the opto is still my preferred river maybe just because i shunned the other one for a bit and im used to that one now, idk i just find myself reaching for that particular one more often.
for me I use it for hyzerflip lazer lines, straight drives that finish a bit right on lower lines, and longer turnovers. The opto to me does all of this better, its most likely a disc to disc thing. The PLH on my GL is sooooo low, but its every bit as stable as the opto and used to be more so.
for me I use it for hyzerflip lazer lines, straight drives that finish a bit right on lower lines, and longer turnovers. The opto to me does all of this better, its most likely a disc to disc thing. The PLH on my GL is sooooo low, but its every bit as stable as the opto and used to be more so.
turso
Double Eagle Member
My 169g royal blue GL was very teebirdy with its stability as well, now it's just a tad more stable than my optos.
Just curious, how do these ratings from Joe's seem to you guys?
Eagle-X 4.5 -0.5 3 4
Assassin 4.5 -0.5 3 4
River 4.5 -0.5 3 4
(yes, they have the exact same ratings)
...I would say River is the longest of the three due to better glide, and that Eagle-X is the most controllable. Assassin somewhere in between. What do you think?
Eagle-X 4.5 -0.5 3 4
Assassin 4.5 -0.5 3 4
River 4.5 -0.5 3 4
(yes, they have the exact same ratings)
...I would say River is the longest of the three due to better glide, and that Eagle-X is the most controllable. Assassin somewhere in between. What do you think?
JR
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My former E Assassin had way less glide and two notches more speed than my GL River of the flippy then surely too early and too hard fading kind. I've not thrown Eagles much at all in 2010 so i can't compare them exactly. IIRC SEX fades more than the River and the Assassin.
From what I've thrown, the Assassin is much flippier out of the box. I was surprised at how stable and how much fade the River had.
Yeah, that's why the River reminds me so much of a heavy champ EL, except it seems a lot more predictable than the EL.bcr123psu said:
I don't know about the River and EX having the same numbers though, the River seems like a nicely worn in EX out of the box.
Including the fade and all?EL-KABONG! said:
It was such a long time since I threw eagle-x, but that was before I realized it was supposed to be different from the other eagles, so I thought it was a freak and didn't use it much. Sold it.
I have a full weight opto River which i haven't thrown yet, but i expect it to be more stable than the g.l. Rivers. That's why I was interested in the River / Eagle-X comparison.
Thanks.
What I was trying to figure out is just how stable a River can be in full weight and the opto plastic. And if it could put my Striker out of the bag (I like my bag to be light). Perhaps the River-Blitz-Trident combo would be enough for the stable to overstable driver duties. I guess there's only one way to find out, and that is to wait a couple of months :wink:
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