I find it easier to throw all but only because I like supporting the bros 
except the rotating DD slot which will get filled soon enough'
except the rotating DD slot which will get filled soon enough'
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[MVP] The Servo - Fairway Driver
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You're arguing against yourself without realizing it.
The reasons you listed above are exactly why there isn't really much of a gyroscopic effect. The differences in mass distribution are so insignificant they don't really affect very much.
For me, the overmold is great at absorbing tree hits and such. And the discs fly well.
I have thought about the same thing. Do I hear a group dye?
Dyers guild up!
I only bag the Volt and Tensor after throwing every MVP disc, but this is my thing too. My Volt is chewed up pretty bad, but honestly it flies better than ever. I habe discs that are as durable as MVP stuff, but nothing MORE durable.
bfowler
Double Eagle Member
Almost my whole bag is MVP except for my higher speed drivers.
I wonder why that is?
I wonder why that is?
in4d
*Hiding in Mike C's Closet*
Maybe you misunderstood what i was saying.
I was just hypothesizing about the spin speed of the extra weight in the rim up to the same RPM at release as a disc without it because were dealing with small weights regardless.
The extra GYRO effect is obviously apparent, many people have noticed it and commented about this as reasons they do or do not throw MVP discs, no need to beat a dead horse.
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lowracks
Eagle Member
case closed. people notice things therefore they exist.
threevok
Double Eagle Member
Dude not cool. They specifically said not to leak the new distance driver!
threevok
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Grungedude42
Double Eagle Member
So, it's gonna be a slower Teebird?
in4d
*Hiding in Mike C's Closet*
Same speed as a teebird, or at least close
I didn't.
You want to claim that the weight being shifted farther out with the overmold keeps MVP discs flying straighter, longer (or whatever) due to the added gyroscopic effects.
Yet you then turn around and claim that the added gyroscopic effect from moving weight outwards doesn't decrease initial spin.
They're two sides of the same coin. Moving weight out both limits initial spin and allows the object to lose the angular velocity a little bit slower.
The truth probably lies somewhere between these two graphs:
In both, the MVP disc has less initial spin but holds onto it a bit longer, both due to the gyroscopic effects of its construction.
Here's another variant that may or may not be the most accurate (rotational physics are pretty simple, but the physics of everything in a disc's flight gets messy fast):
Note that in the third graph the "other discs" lose "more" spin over time, like we can all agree on, but the MVP disc still never has more spin than the "other."
The horizontal dashed line shows when the disc lands - obviously that occurs well before the disc stops spinning entirely.
I left the horizontal dashed line out of the first and second graphs, but you can draw one in. So long as you don't draw it near the X Axis (i.e. when spin is zero), and you draw it at a reasonable point, the difference is still negligible, even in the "extreme" example (that's incorrect):
So people have never been wrong or bought into marketing before? They've never "felt" or "seen" something they were set up to feel or see? People in drug trials have never claimed that the placebo they got is a wonder drug that does just what the doctors told them it would do?
The only logical conclusion one can come to: any gyroscopic effect in MVP discs is minimal and mostly (if not entirely) offset by the lower initial RPMs.
P.S. Someone in a physics lab could easily conduct an experiment to measure the MOI of an equally weighted Volt and Teebird, for example (almost identical diameters). Or an Aviar and Ape… the Aviar would have a higher MOI because more of its weight is on the very outer edge, but again, probably less than you might think. (The Aviar and the Ape are also almost identical diameters.)
P.P.S. Sorry. I like physics. And as I said, I have a LOT of MVP discs, and enjoy them quite a bit. Probably my favorite disc manufacturer.
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Menacewarf
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Is that the one endorsed by dgcr fav one A. Jenkins?
disc qualified
Banned
an anode is a staple of my game but the rest of their discs leave me severely underwhelmed. trust me, i have tried to find a use for just about all of them, but no dice.
locally, it's the same way. a few ions and anodes on the course, but nobody seems to care about the rest of their line up. the local store doesn't even bother ordering anything but putters because they just don't sell.
locally, it's the same way. a few ions and anodes on the course, but nobody seems to care about the rest of their line up. the local store doesn't even bother ordering anything but putters because they just don't sell.
Obligation
Par Member
So what gap does the Servo fill? If its too short for a volt I can just use the Tangent/Anode/Axis?
The resistor was some needed beef because the Tensor in my opinion just didn't have the stability that it needed for its role. Altho I still use both (Tensor quite rarely) as someone who enjoys all MVPs molds what does this have to offer?
The resistor was some needed beef because the Tensor in my opinion just didn't have the stability that it needed for its role. Altho I still use both (Tensor quite rarely) as someone who enjoys all MVPs molds what does this have to offer?
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