First of all, that's a lot of work you did there without any REAL data.. which is impressive but doesn't tell us much being that its theoretical. Like i said we would have to use a high FPS slow motion camera to get some real data.
High FPS cameras would be a lousy way to do any measuring because you'd have a human throwing and that would produce variations. There are many better ways to measure this kind of thing. You could measure and determine the actual mass distribution.
You'd likely find that an MVP disc's is negligibly distributed towards the edge, and that the overmold is mostly marketing (in terms of "gyroscopic effects" - it's great for disc durability, IMO).
"Flying straighter, longer (or whatever)" is not exactly what I meant to say. Just to clarify, GYRO seems to cause slower transitions from turn/fade and holds an angle or line a little longer, which means that the GYRO helps the disc resist a change in its current plane of axis (pretty much the definition of what a gyroscope does).
The gyroscopic effect in MVP discs is most likely negligible. What it "seems" like is hardly proof of anything.
Like I've said in each of these posts now, I like MVP discs, but you'd likely see negligible differences if you could magically convert a Volt to a non-overmold version.
I don't think the initial spin speed (RPM) is slower from the start with MVP discs either, that's what i was trying to get at.
Then you're again arguing against yourself. Either the disc has the mass distributed more towards the edge (less RPMs at launch, slight gyroscopic effect throughout the flight) or it doesn't (same RPMs at launch, same flight as other discs throughout).
I just don't see a GYRO disc somehow losing some of the snap/spin energy and starting off at a slower spin speed than a normal disc, even if there's 20g or 40g more weight positioned around the edge of the rim than a normal disc.
It's pretty simple physics. The same amount of forces will produce less spin on an object with a higher moment of inertia.
I understand why you would think that and it makes sense on a larger scale with more weight, but we are dealing with such a small mass in the first place that the energy needed to get to a persons max spin speed is not increased enough by the added GYRO rim to make a measurable difference in the end result (initial spin speed).
You're right. We're dealing with such a small difference that, as I said, the gyroscopic effect is probably negligible. But if that's true - as it likely is - then the negligibility applies to all aspects - including the things you feel it "seems" to do.
FWIW my money, if I had to bet, would be on the second image I posted.
None of this matters anyways, I just throw MVP because i like the way it flies and thinking about the physics of it too much might not be healthy. :doh:
Yeah, it's a real bummer when the physics doesn't match up with what you think something "seems" to do.
Conclusion: the "gyro" tech is largely marketing with a negligible real-world effect. It's nice too because it lets them use the same "cores" for multiple discs. The overmold is also great for durability.
P.S. Physics stuff interests me. Science in general. That's why I write so much.
