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[Discraft] Wasp throwers
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Titan037
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tennesseetailor
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I go through phases where I get tired of DX and KC Rocs and really want a premium plastic mid that flies like a Roc. I have Champ Rocs but they are the domiest mids I've ever felt and really aren't worth the USDGC price point, IMO. I've been putting off trying a Z Wasp for a while since it's not a Roc but it's probably time to get off my high horse.
$14 from either Marshall Street or Disc Golf Center and you'll be set.
Z Wasp will change your life. Seasons wayyyyyyy slower, and is just way more reliable. They're also much more comfortable in the hand. Find a flat top Wasp and you'll never go back.
VictorB
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It's definitely worth trying out at least. Rocs are best in plastic that you can season (KC, DX) but premium rocs leave a lot to be desired. Wasps were originally intended to be premium plastic, and Z plastic is about as close to indestructible as it gets in disc golf. So you get a really nice flight that won't change for a really long time. And once it does start to season, it is more like a DX Roc where it will lose more fade first. This is the promised land
As for the comfort thing, I also throw comets which a lot of buzzz/wasp throwers don't like. The flat top is great but isn't more comfortable as some perceive.
tennesseetailor
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Even KC and DX Rocs now are starting to have more "plus-y" rims which make them almost impossible to grip comfortably. The weather is finally starting to cooperate and the last time I was in the field shaking off the rust, I couldn't throw any of my newer Rocs to save my life. Not sure what's going on, but Innova is making it very difficult to throw Rocs anymore.
I started looking at Wasps and the Comet came to mind if I went all premium plastic for mids. I knew the Wasp was supposed to be the premium Roc but I've also seen folks say that the best understable Roc is a Comet. Not sure how much truth there is to that but both discs are on my radar right now.
I'm going to echo the suggestion that you get a Z Wasp. This seems like the most likely solution to your issue.
Streets
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I think kevdiv does this Z Wasp, Dx Rocs and a Comet
wolfmandragon
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If one lived close to a PIAS, maybe buy beat to snot Rocs for the understable compliment to a Wasp/Comet combo. That's the only reason I could see.
I haven't noticed any sort of grip issues with the Roc recently, so...no. :|
Indeed I do. I normally carry a Z Wasp, a 3-4 DX Ranchos and 1-2 Z Comets. There's a lot of overlap but they're all great molds and wouldn't want to do without.
Could get by with all Rocs if I had fresh/heavy down to beat/light. Or just 2 out of the 3 molds. But I don't think you can get a Wasp as flippy as a Comet or a Comet as beefy as a Wasp if you wanted to go with just one of those molds.
tennesseetailor
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[This might be the wrong thread, but since you mentioned both...] How would you say the Roc feels in comparison to a Comet? I'm almost certain that the Wasp is going to be my workhorse, but for touchy shots or turnovers there's no way I can get a Wasp to that point unless I'm able to find them in Jawbreaker or the like.
Van1
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ESP Meteor is an excellent compliment to Z WASPS. It doesn't feel the same because of no bead but still feels great and grippy.
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Alexplz
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You feel like the flight of a wasp is closer to a more-stable comet than a more-stable buzzz? I feel like Wasp/Roc3/Buzzz/Meteor are all solidly speed 5, while the Comet and Rancho Roc are solidly speed 4.
wolfmandragon
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Wasp flies more like a 4 speed to me. I can power it down much slower than I can a Buzzz or a Meteor but it has enough stability I don't have to worry about it turning over on a full power drive.
The Wasp feels half a tick faster than a Comet but a full tick slower than a Buzzz... what ever those numbers come out to be.
All above discs are assumed to be Z as that is all Wasps have in production runs.
The Wasp feels half a tick faster than a Comet but a full tick slower than a Buzzz... what ever those numbers come out to be.
All above discs are assumed to be Z as that is all Wasps have in production runs.
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ILUVSMGS18
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I had my Z Wasp, KC Roc, DX Rancho Roc, DX Ontairio Roc, and Elite-X Comet. I did ditch the DX Ontario for a Z Comet after a little while though.
Now if only we had production X Wasps again.
