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[Innova] What is a TeeDevil?
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Dsplayname
Double Eagle Member
I recently did a dye on an EchoStar "Destroyer" with a vulcan top. It says E* DV on the back. Although, the V looks a bit sideways and more like a 7. Maybe Innova tried to sell Destrulcans, got called for it by PDGA, and is now having to call it a new disc.
I don't know all the rulings for tech standards in PDGA, nor do I even know what all the numbers mean on the tech specs list, but I would think that if you a disc with noticeably different specifications than those approved, you need to call it something else or run the risk of getting approval revoked.
Any way you want to look at it though, I think there is a clear lack of respect for the customers on Innova's part.
not a DC zealot. i was confused but its so meaningless i wont even bother explaining why. I love Innova discs. just wish they were more consistent. i mostly throw Innova drivers and DC mids.
412Disc
Double Eagle Member
who cares?? It's a high speed disc...
Apoth
Double Eagle Member
I'm the same way. There are several innova discs I love, but if DC made a nearly identical mold, I might very well buy it from DC because the inconsistencies are less.
ENold
Bogey Member
I want the "tee-party," a slow, "un-stable" disc comparable to a Fiend.
ManU
* Ace Member *
People still slam DC for being inconsistent
cause "run 1 of Discraft Disc X" is different from "run 2"
but this will also apply to another company and is IMO not a fair statement about being inconsistent
and please correct me if I am wrong but and I think this is the key point DC doesn't go around PLUS molding discs without telling you or L/X molding them without identifying it or, better yet, putting semi random parts together and telling you it's the same disc you've been throwing for a while
cause "run 1 of Discraft Disc X" is different from "run 2"
but this will also apply to another company and is IMO not a fair statement about being inconsistent
and please correct me if I am wrong but and I think this is the key point DC doesn't go around PLUS molding discs without telling you or L/X molding them without identifying it or, better yet, putting semi random parts together and telling you it's the same disc you've been throwing for a while
mujamike
Newbie
I agree. But innova discs feel better in my hand. Discraft just feels like junk toys to me. Minus old buzzzezzzez
medicinalfunk
* Ace Member *
you mean a teerex?
WillACarpenter
* Ace Member *
The awesomesauce he meant was actually the name of a hot sauce, the awesomesauce you are thinking of is called "crude oil".
According to the pdga's approved discs file, this will indeed be a speed 12 or 13 driver. The rim thickness is 2.4cm, the same as the groove, ape, vulcan, and wahoo. Rim thickness is usually a direct sign of the speed of the disc, as for the other technical specifications... I'm too lazy/uninterested to look for patterns.
Source:
http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/PDGA_approved_discs_081411.pdf
Source:
http://www.pdga.com/files/documents/PDGA_approved_discs_081411.pdf
Craton
Double Eagle Member
...shucks. I was really hoping for a speed 12 archon...
yawpstang64
Double Eagle Member
From discgolfsweden:
It's time for a new driver from Innova, this time a less stable variant of the Destroyer, TeeDevil. According to Dave at Innova the TeeDevil flies similar to a slightly worn Destroyer, with a little less over stability. The flight rating is not set yet, but a guess is; Speed = 12, Glide = 5, HSS -2 and LSS 2. TeeDevil in Champion plastic is reserved for the fundraiser program for now; first run will be made for the Australian Open. The plan is that it will be released in Star plastic during October. TeeDevil was approved by the PDGA last weekend. Some figures:
Outside diameter: 21.2 cm (max weight 176.0 grams)
Inside rim diameter: 16.4 cm
Height: 1.6 cm
Rim depth: 1.2 cm
Rim thickness: 2.4 cm
Flexibility rating: 11.59 kg
Rim configuration rating: 28.50 mm
It's time for a new driver from Innova, this time a less stable variant of the Destroyer, TeeDevil. According to Dave at Innova the TeeDevil flies similar to a slightly worn Destroyer, with a little less over stability. The flight rating is not set yet, but a guess is; Speed = 12, Glide = 5, HSS -2 and LSS 2. TeeDevil in Champion plastic is reserved for the fundraiser program for now; first run will be made for the Australian Open. The plan is that it will be released in Star plastic during October. TeeDevil was approved by the PDGA last weekend. Some figures:
Outside diameter: 21.2 cm (max weight 176.0 grams)
Inside rim diameter: 16.4 cm
Height: 1.6 cm
Rim depth: 1.2 cm
Rim thickness: 2.4 cm
Flexibility rating: 11.59 kg
Rim configuration rating: 28.50 mm
Doupie620
Banned
So...a barely faster Archon?
Apoth
Double Eagle Member
I suppose you could say that. But in the same logic, a wraith is a barely faster Orc and the Destroyer is a barely faster Wraith etc. etc.
ManU
* Ace Member *
so based on the DGS description this would appear to be an official Destrulcan
Dsplayname
Double Eagle Member
Personally, I'd like to see a new/better line of plastic from Innova rather than another disc that isn't fulfilling any unmet demands from the market.
Apoth
Double Eagle Member
New molds = sales, though, so if they don't put out new discs, they don't make much money.
Dsplayname
Double Eagle Member
I think that if they came out with a new line of plastic, maybe similar to Lat64's colorshift gold line, they could bring in a lot more sales than just a new driver. People would want to replace their current discs with superior material. EchoStar was a flop because it really isn't much better than Star, but I think something like Gold Line or FLX would generate a lot more revenue.
