What can I do to go from 500' to 600'?

[SpringDgLover]

This right here is what everyone needs to read. Everyone hears about pro's "throwing over 500" and they feel like they suck and they wonder why they can't throw 450 all the time.

Well, 450 is freaking far if you ignore any help from wind or a downhill. In my opinion, aside from the power players, the average player should be pretty dang happy with 400+ with accuracy. If you actually measure out 400' and go look at it, it is monstrous.

That being said, MikeC and New, I hope you can crush it past 500'. I wish you the best of luck!

Yep, damn good post.

 

[Mocheez]

Wasn't Ian Hovey able to throw 550-600 feet on average? I remember watching a youtube video where he parked a 550 foot hole.

 

[_MTL_]

This right here is what everyone needs to read. Everyone hears about pro's "throwing over 500" and they feel like they suck and they wonder why they can't throw 450 all the time.

Well, 450 is freaking far if you ignore any help from wind or a downhill. In my opinion, aside from the power players, the average player should be pretty dang happy with 400+ with accuracy. If you actually measure out 400' and go look at it, it is monstrous.

That being said, MikeC and New, I hope you can crush it past 500'. I wish you the best of luck!

No, top pros should be pretty dang dang happy with 400+ with accuracy.

Average players should be happy to be accurate inside 300. everything past that is a bonus.

 

[_MTL_]

Wasn't Ian Hovey able to throw 550-600 feet on average? I remember watching a youtube video where he parked a 550 foot hole.

Just doing it once isn't average.

But yes, Ian had a lot of golf D. Not a lot of Max D, but a lot of golf d.

Golf d is SO MUCH more important than Max D. That's where Wiggins and Gurthie kill you - their golf D.

 

[Jukeshoe]

Somebody else touched upon it already I think, but perhaps the best way to get extra distance at this point isn't so much technique as diet/conditioning/training.

I'm sure Mike C is in pretty good shape. He might even be in very good shape. But even "very good shape" is a far cry from, say, the conditioning a professional athlete works to maintain. A lot of that is proper diet, sleep, and tons of training.

It might be easier to ramp up your physical shape and see some gains that way then it would be to make minute tweaks to a throw that's already pretty damn good.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[The Hammer]

I need to find a 472' wide warehouse :|

I feel like the only reason that record hasn't been broken, is that it is too difficult to find a venue. 470' really isn't that far.

 

[tampabay]

No, top pros should be pretty dang dang happy with 400+ with accuracy.

Average players should be happy to be accurate inside 300. everything past that is a bonus.

+1

Lets call it even and say competitive (meaning skill level, not tenacity) players.

It's fair to say that average players are probably closer to people hucking blizzard bosses on 100' holes. I agree with this.

I'm thinking more in the range of people who are clearly very good at disc golf even if they aren't pro.

 

[_MTL_]

+1

Lets call it even and say competitive (meaning skill level, not tenacity) players.

It's fair to say that average players are probably closer to people hucking blizzard bosses on 100' holes. I agree with this.

I'm thinking more in the range of people who are clearly very good at disc golf even if they aren't pro.

I would say to not be happy with accuracy over 400 on a consistent basis you should be rated well over 1000.

 

[Dan Ensor]

I throw over 400' accurately on a consistent basis (as accurately and consistently as 200' anyway ...) and I'm not breaking 900 . . . :wall:

Blake T posted somewhere that huge guns can hit 530' with a decent level of consistency, but over that required some amount of luck.

 

[Nick481]

I think a lot of people have a misunderstanding on how some top pros throw only 450 ft on some holes and how some guys have better golf d and some have better raw d. Basically, everything in distance is dependant on how much speed you can put on the disc. Say you give everyone the same flippy 165g star boss for example. Put the same exact disc in Garret gurthies hands, david wiggins hands, avery, big jerm. Level ground, no wind. Have them all throw it on the same exact high hyzer flip to turnover, which turns into a huge pan out distance line. Whoever has the most speed at release of the disc is going to to thrownit the farthest. You could argue that maybe double g and wiggins might throw it the farthest, or whoever you think throws the fastest. We can never know who has the biggest arm or can throw the farthest until we measure all of their speeds on a radar gun. The current fastest speed of a disc that has actually been measured was simon lizotte at 89 and some change mph. This means its possible that double g, wiggins, and big jerm might be throwing 90+ at release. These guys speed is much higher than guys who can throw 500 feet occasionally. Everyone saying throw a higher anny distance line and stuff wont help. Mike wants to know how he can tweak his form in able to just plainly impart more speed on the disc at release. That is the basis for distance on any drive. If he was throwing 90 mph like the top few guys, on those straight-hyzer placement shots he was throwing with quasars would be going 550 plus feet. And hes capable of it, just like most athletic people.

 

[The Hammer]

I would say to not be happy with accuracy over 400 on a consistent basis you should be rated well over 1000.

I can honestly say that I am far more accurate on shots in the 400-450' range. Inside of that, my accuracy suffers. There are several people on this forum that would probably concur with this statement. I am not rated over 1000.

 

[Dan Ensor]

Want to gain another 100'? Talk to Blake over on DGR. That's not to take anything away from the big arms here. I know there are people here that can help you, but you'll have to wade through the post count builders to find them.

I pmed him a couple weeks ago; no response yet. Anyone know a better way to get ahold of him?

^post a form critique video over there

I've done that also. Also sent beto a pm yesterday.

 

[The Hammer]

I think a lot of people have a misunderstanding on how some top pros throw only 450 ft on some holes and how some guys have better golf d and some have better raw d. Basically, everything in distance is dependant on how much speed you can put on the disc. Say you give everyone the same flippy 165g star boss for example. Put the same exact disc in Garret gurthies hands, david wiggins hands, avery, big jerm. Level ground, no wind. Have them all throw it on the same exact high hyzer flip to turnover, which turns into a huge pan out distance line. Whoever has the most speed at release of the disc is going to to thrownit the farthest. You could argue that maybe double g and wiggins might throw it the farthest, or whoever you think throws the fastest. We can never know who has the biggest arm or can throw the farthest until we measure all of their speeds on a radar gun. The current fastest speed of a disc that has actually been measured was simon lizotte at 89 and some change mph. This means its possible that double g, wiggins, and big jerm might be throwing 90+ at release. These guys speed is much higher than guys who can throw 500 feet occasionally. Everyone saying throw a higher anny distance line and stuff wont help. Mike wants to know how he can tweak his form in able to just plainly impart more speed on the disc at release. That is the basis for distance on any drive. If he was throwing 90 mph like the top few guys, on those straight-hyzer placement shots he was throwing with quasars would be going 550 plus feet. And hes capable of it, just like most athletic people.

huh?

 

[Nick481]

huh?

What i mean is that all that matters is the speed of the frisbee coming out of your hand. Maybe it wouldve helped if i broke it into paragraphs.

 

[tbird888]

I've done that also. Also sent beto a pm yesterday.

DGR moves a little slower than DGCR.

 

[DG_Before_Breakfast]

What i mean is that all that matters is the speed of the frisbee coming out of your hand. Maybe it wouldve helped if i broke it into paragraphs.

This sort of confuses me. Doesn't the amount of spin on the Disc and the angle of release (e.g. Anny flex shot for max distance with high speed, overstable, drivers) matter too?

 

[Tpro]

Ah yes the ole Whos got the Biggest D and how do I make mine longer Conversation. Ill just read this thread. The last one like this I was apart of I got Flagged for talking about how I was a GReek God.

 

[Nick481]

This sort of confuses me. Doesn't the amount of spin on the Disc and the angle of release (e.g. Anny flex shot for max distance with high speed, overstable, drivers) matter too?

I think most guys with that kind of speed have relatively similar spin rates, of course, no one really knows for sure be because it has never been measured. And what i meant by the whole thing was that if you want to throw farther, already assuming you can hit the optimal anny flex shot, you need to impart more velocity on the disc.

 

[Dan Ensor]

DGR moves a little slower than DGCR.

Yeah, I wasn't expecting beto to have gotten back to me. My video analysis has been going for a while, though.

If anyone knows a quicker way to get ahold of Blake, though, I'd really appreciate it.


@Nick: All things being equal, more speed = more distance. All things are not equal, though. (The example I'm coming up with now is OAT. You can put a lot of exit speed on the disc without getting full D out of it)

@Mike: Strength training? Not bulking up or anything, but using a resistance band, or a grip tool. Maybe plyo boxes too.

 

[The Hammer]

I think most guys with that kind of speed have relatively similar spin rates, of course, no one really knows for sure be because it has never been measured. And what i meant by the whole thing was that if you want to throw farther, already assuming you can hit the optimal anny flex shot, you need to impart more velocity on the disc.

That's the thing.....most people can't hit that optimal line, especially when they are focusing on throwing as hard as they can. Being a distance thrower, I will tell you the line is more important than the speed.