[Question] Is BEEF in a lineup really necessary?

[depster]

175 champ banshee problem solved. OS and controllable. If its not really windy leave it in the car.

 

[Dj1001]

I think it is necessary to have some stupid ovestable discs. I carry an XXX and a Zone and find them very useful for high altitude anhyzers that pan out really hard and get a ton of lateral movement, very useful for getting out and around objects without having to risk going though any branches.

 

[DikkaD]

And that's why I'm only ~900 rated.
But realistically I am intent on focusing on LHBH 100%. The time it would take to learn LHFH would be much more than the time it would take get better at turnovers and annys.

My 5 year old nephew can throw FH, its easy as hell. Don't be an American't :hfive:

 

[kevdiv48]

My 5 year old nephew can throw FH, its easy as hell. Don't be an American't :hfive:

Haha. I guess the only reason I brought that fact up that I only throw BH is because others will usually have a beefy disc for their FH shots to cover OAT and/ for those doglegs going the opposite way of their primary throw. Since I don't throw FH, that's one of the reasons I don't need anything silly OS.

 

[Pwingles]

Just like rhbb turnovers and rhfh, lhbh and rhfh are slightly different lines.

Wouldnt hurt to be proficient at all of them.

To the OP,
I carry a flat champ FB and a Zone as OS utility discs. They have become necessary for me as i learn different throws and lines, there are simply lines and throws that a very OS disc make easier, or more reliable. In some cases anything less beefy just isnt capable of performing that shot. Same thing with a super beat and flippy disc.

The more shots i get comfortable throwing, different release angles, height and speed etc, the more i find myself using discs that are on extreme ends of the stability spectrum. Not sure if thats true for everyone though.

 

[Horsman]

My 5 year old nephew can throw FH, its easy as hell. Don't be an American't :hfive:

It only took me 3 years to learn forhand and about 2 days to successfully be abel to hyzerflip and turnover consistantly.

And simple answer - Yes

 

[simpletwist]

I know how it feels to get OCD if I go three rounds in a row without using a disc in my bag, wondering if I really need it. Usually the answer is that I don't need it, especially when I'm playing well. However, certain discs make certain lines easier and more predictable, requiring less from the thrower. There are days where just about any golfer would appreciate that. Even if your home course doesn't require them, you should still practice with overstable discs if you plan on competing anywhere else ever. Work your anny releases (perhaps the biggest weakness I see in the top am divisions in general).

Great advice I think. And even if your not playing a bunch of different courses sometimes its just fun to try a new shot. Who knows, you just might stumble on that magic shot and/or disc. You know the one where everyone's jaw drops open in wonder.

 

[elmexdela]

the firebird is probably the least thrown disc in my bag. but when a thick wind comes a blown, i am always more than happy that i have it. also can produce amazing hyzer bombs. i say its absolutely worth keeping. i barely throw my beefcakes, but when i do im glad i have them

 

[elmexdela]

also i throw a ce exp 1 and thats way more controlled but i can get more D out of a fb. take that for what it is. i did take the exp 1 out though because i stumbled across a really beefy TI stalker and that thing is a great fairway overstable. simular to exp 1/banshee. and i throw my stalkers 325 and on a great day almost to 350. but those ti can handle a wind and give sure fade

 

[titovanburen]

1 Do you have problems with your disc not fading as hard as you'd like it to at the end of its flight?
2 Do you play in windy conditions?

answering yes to either of these questions warrants BEEF in the bag

 

[BirdieMachine]

The answer is no but it doesnt hurt to have it. It will help in Windy conditions and certain shots as some have mentioned. I carry a Drone and Firebird. Threw both today actually. Both are very reliable.

 

[Tpro]

Yes. If you have any power at All, play in the wind or ever plan on throwing anything other than straight. Be well rounded, im pretty sure thats needed in every aspect in life!

 

[bhadella]

I carry a Zone, Drone and Firebird. These are really helpful for:

low, skippy around the green shots
wide flex lines
beefy spike hyzers around trees

In a normal round I only pull them a few times but they save me strokes everytime I use one.

 

[DiscinFiend]

I found that at least keeping one truly overstable driver in the bag helps out occasionally. I at least carry one meat hook driver (Usually Flat Firechicken) & power it down when needed instead of carrying an overstable Mid & Driver. For windy days, skip shots, sidearm rollers (rare for me), & doglegs they come in handy. I trust a disc I know will fade hard no matter what (especially in strong winds) more than throwing a stable/slightly overstable on a hyzer. I don't use my Firebird every round but I still like to always have one in case I need it.

 

[MarkDSM]

Pro-D Drone is the only disc that has never left my big bag. (tried other plastics of Drone, but the Pro-D just feels more right to grip for me)

In reference to the original poster.. It nearly always have a low to ground beef upshot at least once on 10, 11, or 14 (and sometimes an out of the woods / left side of fairway up and around the last corner on 15) at Walnut Ridge.

(I am RHBH though...)

 

[theabacus]

For me, no. Until I have a 30 mph headwind...

 

[Brodysseus]

I love having a beefy putter/approach disc in my bag, very useful in windy, flatlands, cornfield Illinois. And while I've been staying away from a really beefy driver, I do feel like my bag needs one.

 

[dekdo]

Yeah I really like having my gator, xxx, xcal or d1 in the bag. I always know what they will do and sometimes you just need the huge fade or skip. Plus they come in pretty handy when the wind picks up.

 

[smyith]

beef is always good, but i prefer bacon while playing personally.

 

[Dan Ensor]

You can always replace your understable stuff with a forehand or left handed shot. There's nothing like a true meathook. It's not about wind, either. It's about having another line available to you. You can't get a Roc to pan out like a Drone; and you can't get a spike hyzer vertical with a Wraith like you can with an OS. I also use overstability for distance control (especially on downhill shots). The more OS, the more control I have over where it hits the ground.

So yeah, it's necessary for a well-rounded bag.