What rules infractions do you call in Tournament play?

[DiscLoser1]

I play Intermediate at tourneys, and I don't call Rules Infractions because I'm playing for fun. I follow all rules within my own game, and will explain rules to fellow players, but most don't seem to care.

What have you called on a fellow player, and what division were you playing in?

 

[Halcón]

According to Terry Miller (The Disc Golf Guy), before every Worlds, Brian Graham (Director of the PDGA) makes a little speech about the integrity of the game, and tells all the players to:

"Make the call."

 

[Aim For The Chains]

According to Terry Miller (The Disc Golf Guy), before every Worlds, Brian Graham (Director of the PDGA) makes a little speech about the integrity of the game, and tells all the players to:

"Make the call."

 

[B3NDER]

According to Terry Miller (The Disc Golf Guy), before every Worlds, Brian Graham (Director of the PDGA) makes a little speech about the integrity of the game, and tells all the players to:

"Make the call."

That didn't answer the Op's question at all. Did you even read the post, or were you just quickly trying to add another to your count?

The only call I would make would be on blatant foot faults, and possibly someone exceeding the time to take a shot.

 

[DavidSauls]

I have called courtesy violations. I play in divisions and among people who rarely footfault. I don't believe I've ever seen a practice throw or someone flip a disc in 20 years of tournaments.

I'm guilty of not calling time violations. On the other hand, I'm fairly quick to start a clock on a lost disc search, and declare the disc lost when the clock expires.

 

[araytx]

Interesting topic, but the way the poll question is phrased, I doubt you'll get what you're looing for. In fact, I am not sure what you're looking for.


I voted that I "call" all of them, based upon the fact that I've played a lot of tournaments and when I've recognized something and handled it properly on my end I've called it. I have never in actuality called a practice throw, likely because by the time I understood that rule I was playing in a division where guys have never done that.

I've never called a player for not marking/flipping the disc, because a little preventive officiating keeps that from ever happening. I always have 5 or 6 marker discs on me. So I voted I would "call" it, and I would if the player was told by me that he needed to mark his disc, I offered him to borrow one of my markers, etc etc, and he then basically did what he wanted to anyway. But I don't see that ever happening. But I voted on the pool that I'd call it for that reason.

When a guy cusses up a storm and has an overall never-ending bad attitude and actions, I'll call that courtesy violation. Or if a player is unofficially warned by me about something and how to do it right, and still continuously violates the rule, I'll call that courtesy violation. It has happened once in many years. And I call blatant violations of the rules, foot faults, etc., particularly after I've done at least one attempt at preventive officiating.

 

[simpletwist]

I've never called one. I've seen a few questionable and/or "callable" things out there but haven't "Made the call." I've only ever played Intermediate, and once Advanced Master.

 

[The Shide]

Maybe it's not an issue around other parts of the country, but around here lost discs happen frequently.
During Worlds there was an issue about a lost disc, then again during States. That's about the only thing I've personally seen. Never seen someone called for a footfault.

 

[PWaggoner]

Ive never called anything.

Id probally call something real obvious but havent really seen anything blatant.

 

[Pbmercil]

I call anything I see. Occationally I will give an "unofficial" warning before the real warning. That largely depends on if I think the player in question should know better.

 

[The Shide]

I play Intermediate at tourneys, and I don't call Rules Infractions because I'm playing for fun. I follow all rules within my own game, and will explain rules to fellow players, but most don't seem to care.

What have you called on a fellow player, and what division were you playing in?

Is this an option? Can you just declare, "I'm only playing for fun" then the rules no longer apply to you?

The "I'm only playing for fun" BS is one of a few reasons why I'm on the fence as to whether or not I'm even going to re-up my membership to PDGA next year. That and the incident during AM Worlds where someone pencilwhipped a scorecard, but to the best of my knowledge is still eligible to play in sanctioned tournaments.

If you pay $50 to be apart of a sanctioning organization, then:
A) you should know the rules
B) you should adhere to the rules
C) you should call infractions of the rules.

Call me a rules Nazi, it wouldn't be the first time. If the body that is supposed to be over all doesn't enforce its' own rules, then WTF?

I'm out.

 

[DiscLoser1]

The poll are common rules that I consistently see blissfully broken in the tourneys I've played. This applies to veteran tourney players and first-timers.

There is a strong 'follow the rules and you're a douche' sentiment in these parts, and rather than spend 3 hours having my card mates hate me, I usually look the other way, because I'm there for fun, and if someone beats me by gaining an advantage here or there, I'm not too bothered.

My belief tho is if you're playing a PDGA event you should play by PDGA rules, but that seems to just be me. If I get my game together and play Advanced next year, hopefully I'll see a change.

Just curious to see who and where and what division actually play by the rules.

 

[DavidSauls]

I call anything I see. Occationally I will give an "unofficial" warning before the real warning. That largely depends on if I think the player in question should know better.

I've done a bunch of these, on borderline calls.

Of course, there is a well-known culture of not calling violations But, in some places and some divisions, there is also a culture of complying with rules. It leaves far fewer opportunities to make calls, which is nice.

(On the other hand, as a TD I recently assessed 28 strokes of penalties to someone, which should cover me for a while).

 

[Halcón]

That didn't answer the Op's question at all. Did you even read the post, or were you just quickly trying to add another to your count?

So what you're saying is, you didn't read the OP.

 

[JC17393]

I play Intermediate at tourneys, and I don't call Rules Infractions because I'm playing for fun. I follow all rules within my own game, and will explain rules to fellow players, but most don't seem to care.

What have you called on a fellow player, and what division were you playing in?

You're contradicting yourself. If you follow all the rules, then you should be calling rules infractions when you see them. If you're not, you're not following all the rules. (801.01 B. Players are expected to call a violation when one has clearly occurred. Calls must be made promptly.)

I call violations when I see them. I've called foot faults, 30 seconds, 3-minutes on a lost disc, misplays, courtesy, pretty much everything in the book at one time or another, both when I was an am and now as a pro. As a TD, I've assessed dozens of scoring error penalties (including four just this past weekend) and even DQ'd a couple players.

I've also countless times taken the "unofficial warning" route when players unknowingly commit or are about to commit a violation. That's actually my preference in a lot of cases, but at some point, particularly playing Pro Open (but it should apply to pretty much any division in a sanctioned event), you have to start with the assumption that the player is aware of the rules and a friendly warning isn't enough nor necessary. To me there's a difference between being blissfully unaware that you are violating a rule and being aware of the rule but not caring/trying enough to be in compliance.

 

[Steve West]

I'd like to know if anyone has ever called 801.01 B.

 

[JC17393]

I'd like to know if anyone has ever called 801.01 B.

Perhaps someone looking for a second from the group on a foot fault call? I know I've called foot faults, back when it was required to have a second for even a warning, that no one wanted to second because "they weren't paying attention". Might have been worth a courtesy violation call for failing to comply with the rules, but I just let the matter drop rather than pursue it to no meaningful end.

 

[teemkey]

I've never actually called a penalty, but have given out warnings multiple times for foot faults. Like others, I usually make sure the person is aware of their violation and call a warning if they persist after the "mention."

I also have called "friendly warnings" when the player foot faults while throwing a bad shot. Every player getting a warning and a rethrow has been happy about it. You might want to try that -- players willingly accept the rules when it gives them another chance ...

 

[rickles]

I've never had to call infractions yet but I would call things after a warning. But I would get a group consensus so I am not "that guy".

 

[corin_brown]

I've never called one of these rules or issued a warning mostly due to modesty & discretion. I also realize that not calling courtesy violations is a courtesy violation itself.

But I have called people on my card for posting incorrect scores. Muttering a profanity under your breath after you throw a drive OB is one thing but shading your score is beyond the pale.