Simon's Vlog

[Dr.Smooth]

Thanks for keeping it real!

 

[DiscFifty]

I've seen Paige Pierce have a table set up outside her van with discs and swag for people to buy. There are other pros that do the same. You get to meet fans, hang out with your friends, and make some gas money.

When you're living out of a van and trying to make ends meet, an extra $1,000 or so could come in handy. I wouldn't call setting up a card table, setting a box of discs on it, and kicking back in a lawn chair "hustling".

If the #1 FPO player still HAS to sell discs on a table to make ends meet, then her sponsor sucks. Sorry... not sorry. Now...if it was in her contract to do so..that's another story.

 

[Jolt]

I think JVD said on Smashboxxx that he know of six players that made +$100.000 a year . . .but i wonder where Paige P fits in the income scale.
I don´t think she is one of those six. . but she has more titles and "screen time" than most players

 

[dreadlock86]

Its been stated already about Paul's putter usage. Whether he changes every round or every tournament, he definitely goes thru them fast. I bet he goes thru 400-500 putters a year when you factor that its 2 new putters every round/tourney plus the ones that may never see the course after a heavy practice sessions. Plus, he's also throwing them and I believe he uses a different one than he putts with, right?

400-500?? maybe if he were throwing two of them into the water every round

Paul played 23 tourneys this year. that's 46 putting putters for the season. throw in a stack of practice putters and it's probably not even 100 for the year. he seemed to have been throwing the same yellow Z luna off the tee all season. even if he cycled that one he probably didn't go through more than three or so. i can't remember if he was using that one for upshots or if he has some more special blend ones just for approaches.

 

[Streets]

I think JVD said on Smashboxxx that he know of six players that made +$100.000 a year . . .but i wonder where Paige P fits in the income scale.
I don´t think she is one of those six. . but she has more titles and "screen time" than most players

This is very surprising to me...

 

[perklc]

Paul, Simon, Nate, Ricky, Eagle. Not sure who could be that 6th.

 

[Jolt]

Paul, Simon, Nate, Ricky, Eagle. Not sure who could be that 6th.

Exactly my thoughts . .but could it be Paige?

 

[Sethamphetamine]

Exactly my thoughts . .but could it be Paige?

One of the prodigy player/owners perhaps

 

[Halcón]

This is very surprising to me...

What is surprising. That they make that much, or that there are only 6. Paul has mentioned 6 players also, but that was like 2-3 years ago. I bet there are more now. Jerm has to make that much a year, between disc sales, tourney winnings, and earnings from Jomez commentary.

 

[Hampstead]

I ran into Paul several years ago at the BHMO. This was around the time the McPro Aviars came out. I asked if I could buy one but he said he wasn't allowed to sell them. Innovative didn't want their pros hustling out of their trunks. I get it. But, I had money and wanted to buy a disc. He had the disc but couldn't sell it.

 

[Jolt]

is Pauls $250000 a year the ONLY one we know for sure or has any other players said what they make?

I think JVD meant min $100000 as a base salary. . .Paul must have made a fortune in disc sales in 2019.

Simons disc sales is probably good. .but most of his sig. disc seems to sell out. . so he could make more if they made more discs

 

[Halcón]

Simons disc sales is probably good. .but most of his sig. disc seems to sell out. . so he could make more if they made more discs

He might make more, up to a point. You gotta keep the demand high by keeping supply low.

 

[LateWesternSky]

He might make more, up to a point. You gotta keep the demand high by keeping supply low.

Aren't all his sig discs manufactured by Innova? Discmania doesn't tell Innova how many discs of a run they will manufacture. This was documented by how many people complained about the low amount of DD3s that were originally made.

I believe this is what led Discmania to pursue other companies to manufacture their discs.

 

[Halcón]

Aren't all his sig discs manufactured by Innova? Discmania doesn't tell Innova how many discs of a run they will manufacture. This was documented by how many people complained about the low amount of DD3s that were originally made.

I believe this is what led Discmania to pursue other companies to manufacture their discs.

Wouldn't it be Innova not telling Discmania how many they will manufacture? And wouldn't Innova have to abide by whatever order DM placed?

Or maybe I'm misunderstanding you. ?

 

[DiscFifty]

Jerm has to make that much a year, between disc sales, tourney winnings, and earnings from Jomez commentary.

I would be SHOCKED if Jerm makes 100k a year. He's made 20k from PDGA events this year, the other 80k from sponsor matching, disc sales, commentary? again...SHOCKED.

 

[LateWesternSky]

Wouldn't it be Innova not telling Discmania how many they will manufacture? And wouldn't Innova have to abide by whatever order DM placed?

Or maybe I'm misunderstanding you. ?

I highly doubt Innova would abide by whatever DM tells them to do. Before DM reached out to other manufacturers, they were reliant on Innova. Innova didn't rely on DM at all.

Let's say you make $10 for every disc you manufacture. Some company comes up to you and says they'll pay you $7 for every disc you manufacture for them to sell. Obviously you aren't going to prioritize manufacturing their discs.

 

[LateWesternSky]

I would be SHOCKED if Jerm makes 100k a year. He's made 20k from PDGA events this year, the other 80k from sponsor matching, disc sales, commentary? again...SHOCKED.

I agree with you in thinking that Jerm may not be one of the $100,000 players. But you forgot to mention his salary. $20,000 in winnings if "matched" by Innova puts him at $40,000. It's possible he could make $10k -$20k from discs/commentary. Adding in salary, that probably puts him close to $100,000. Purely guesstimation though.

I saw him staying at the same hotel I was at for a big tournament. It cost me ≈ $1,000 for a week. If he can afford that lifestyle for the entire tour, than he's probably doing alright.

 

[Jolt]

I agree with you in thinking that Jerm may not be one of the $100,000 players. But you forgot to mention his salary. $20,000 in winnings if "matched" by Innova puts him at $40,000. It's possible he could make $10k -$20k from discs/commentary. Adding in salary, that probably puts him close to $100,000. Purely guesstimation though.

I saw him staying at the same hotel I was at for a big tournament. It cost me ≈ $1,000 for a week. If he can afford that lifestyle for the entire tour, than he's probably doing alright.

Again, i think JVD coment was that he knew of 6 players that had a salary of +$100000 . . so just the salary

 

[DiscFifty]

I agree with you in thinking that Jerm may not be one of the $100,000 players. But you forgot to mention his salary. $20,000 in winnings if "matched" by Innova puts him at $40,000. It's possible he could make $10k -$20k from discs/commentary. Adding in salary, that probably puts him close to $100,000. Purely guesstimation though.

I saw him staying at the same hotel I was at for a big tournament. It cost me ≈ $1,000 for a week. If he can afford that lifestyle for the entire tour, than he's probably doing alright.

Points well taken, thanks. But....even if Innova is matching tour income 100% that still leaves 60k from disc sales and commentary. That would still be surprising to me if he made that much from those 2 income streams.

 

[LateWesternSky]

Points well taken, thanks. But....even if Innova is matching tour income 100% that still leaves 60k from disc sales and commentary. That would still be surprising to me if he made that much from those 2 income streams.

Again, you are forgetting salary.