2019 Ledgestone

[Halcón]

I haven't seen or heard any evidence that he has seen a medical professional or had an MRI on his shoulder. As far as I know the only people that he has consulted about his injury are his dad and Seth from disc golf strong. As one of the top professional athletes in his field, that just seems strange to me.

We don't know what kind of medical insurance he has (or if he has any at all). Plus he's young and dumb. All of us go through that stage in life.

 

[2naphish]

It was interesting to see some of the pros putting with drivers on Sunday. MJ was putting with his machete when the wind was really bad. I saw others putting with drivers as well, it's a good skill to have but I bet not many amateurs practice putting with drivers.

since i don't play tournaments or usually play in really windy conditions i hadn't given that much thought.

the next time the wind is howling i'll be out at the basket with a few overstable drivers seeing how that works. might just save me a stroke now and again.

my neighbors will know i've went completely over the edge then.

 

[elmexdela]

Exact thing I thought when I watched the video with Cory. If I made my living throwing frisbees my first stop after I left the tournament would have been to see a medical professional to find out what the situation is.

idk with modern technology i would just peep a view youtube videos probably get close to whats up and just listen to your own body

 

[DiscFifty]

since i don't play tournaments or usually play in really windy conditions i hadn't given that much thought.

the next time the wind is howling i'll be out at the basket with a few overstable drivers seeing how that works. might just save me a stroke now and again.

my neighbors will know i've went completely over the edge then.

I would suggest Harp, Gator, etc.

 

[DiscFifty]

Watch some FPO coverage...again. FPO putting across the board for about 98% of the players is still lacking imop. Some of those players could have easily moved up the board dramatically by nailing more of those 20ft and in putts.

 

[Consult20]

One of the best parts of the Johnny disc golf interview with McBeth was him thinking he won $4,000 when he really won $4,500. Or maybe he just rounds down to the nearest thousand now.

 

[SD86]

since i don't play tournaments or usually play in really windy conditions i hadn't given that much thought.

the next time the wind is howling i'll be out at the basket with a few overstable drivers seeing how that works. might just save me a stroke now and again.

my neighbors will know i've went completely over the edge then.

I was playing with my group one day and the wind was really strong on an open course. I had my Star Gator with me, and used it for putting in that wind; still, my overall score was ten throws worse than my average score on that course.

So yes, try a Zone, Harp, Gator, or even a Banshee if that's what it takes to cut through the wind...

 

[SD86]

Watch some FPO coverage...again. FPO putting across the board for about 98% of the players is still lacking imop. Some of those players could have easily moved up the board dramatically by nailing more of those 20ft and in putts.

Agreed. I also noticed that Hailey Dean (I think that was her name) foot-faulted a lot, stepping over the line on tee shots. Never called, of course. I didn't see Catrina foot-fault, though maybe I just missed it if she did.

 

[2naphish]

I would suggest Harp, Gator, etc.

i have carried a Pig since they came out for normal headwind situations where my normal slightly nose up putt with my Sole would rise way too much. works really well thrown dead flat and chain high.

i was thinking of the times when i was questioning if i should be playing at all (gust over 20 MPH). just something i never practiced and i am gonna find out what currently is in my bag that might just save me a "stupid" stroke.

 

[BuiltTooLong]

We don't know what kind of medical insurance he has (or if he has any at all). Plus he's young and dumb. All of us go through that stage in life.

Or he just doesn't like Ledgestone and didn't feel like toughing it out through a weekend of poor weather on a course he dislikes. If World's wasn't in Peoria this year, I can almost guarantee he wouldn't have even come to Ledgestone at all.

I just saw a video posted on Reddit of him crushing a disc at Tyyni today. Looks like the shoulder healed up pretty quickly.

 

[jvphobic]

To be fair, Eagle said that this was an issue he has been dealing with and that he wasn't able to properly warm up due to the rain delay. At the Tyyni he was probably able to get his proper warm up in before the event.

 

[#19325]

To be fair, Eagle said that this was an issue he has been dealing with and that he wasn't able to properly warm up due to the rain delay. At the Tyyni he was probably able to get his proper warm up in before the event.

As far as the warm up deal that is 100% on him and not the weather. His original tee time was 3:30. Eagle did not show up until 4:40 for his 4:45 tee time.

 

[brutalbrutus]

As hard as he threw the first shot of the event... I can see where he might have pulled something if he didn't get a proper warmup. That shot would have flown 750ft(downhill) if it hadn't hit that row of trees.

 

[DanJon]

idk with modern technology i would just peep a view youtube videos probably get close to whats up and just listen to your own body

Shoulder impingements can be serious business.

Severe cases can take up to a year to heal.

Isn't that what Schusterick was dealing with?

 

[Consult20]

Shoulder impingements can be serious business.

Severe cases can take up to a year to heal.

Isn't that what Schusterick was dealing with?

Exactly, when you're a professional athlete at the top of your game you just don't rely on Bro Science for diagnosis & treatment of an injury to your throwing shoulder.

 

[Siiimmons]

Shoulder impingement shouldnt really bother him unless he is doing repeated overhead or internal rotation activities. The normal golf pull would cause very little impingement.

Also, in my experience, shoulder impingement syndrome is what someone calls general shoulder pain without a known cause. Kind of a garbage can term.

 

[brutalbrutus]

The normal golf pull would cause very little impingement.

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What about throwing 450ft FHs?...

 

[Alobar]

Exactly, when you're a professional athlete at the top of your game you just don't rely on Bro Science for diagnosis & treatment of an injury to your throwing shoulder.

Bro Science is a little harsh, isn't it?

From the DGS website:
(http://www.discgolfstrong.com/)

Seth received his BS in Kinesiology (Exercise Science) with a focus in Strength and Conditioning from Cal State Fullerton where he graduated at the top of his class. After graduating, Seth was certified by the National Strength and Conditioning Association (NSCA) as a Certified Strength and Conditioning Specialist (CSCS).
He worked with the Anaheim Ducks as their Strength Coach Intern for the 2011/12 season, working with players to keep them strong and healthy during the season, as well as, during the offseason to help them prepare for the future.
It was during a Certified Golf Fitness Instructor course with the Titleist Performance Institute (TPI) in 2009 that Seth found his passion for working with rotational athletes.
He also owned a fitness training center for 4 years, yet closed it in April 2016 to focus on Disc Golf Strong full-time

There is also a doctor of sports medicine on the advisory board, Dr. Branden Garland, who I am sure can be included in any conversations around tightness or injury.

Eagle tweaked his shoulder earlier in the year due to improper warm-up. Then had an improper warm-up after a rain delay and felt a "pinch" or "tightness", and decided to withdraw rather than face further injury.

Rest, exercise, massage, heat, cold, some combination thereof, and most importantly, a proper warm-up, and he is able to manage it.

I'll leave any further conspiracies to y'all. I think he made the right call.


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[Alobar]

Shoulder impingement shouldnt really bother him unless he is doing repeated overhead or internal rotation activities. The normal golf pull would cause very little impingement.

Also, in my experience, shoulder impingement syndrome is what someone calls general shoulder pain without a known cause. Kind of a garbage can term.

So shoulder impingement has a concrete definition describing a certain motion, but it's also a "garbage can term" for general shoulder soreness?

Nate Sexton had a shoulder injury/soreness earlier this year that he also called an impingement, so it would seem your narrow definition of a "garbage can term" misses the point: they had or have general shoulder soreness from repetitive, high-stress motions related to forehand disc golf throws. If it should or shouldn't be called an impingement is for you and Seth from DGS to argue, I guess.

Some slo-mos of their forehand form to watch their shoulder rotation would be neat.


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[Flick Maniac]

In just 2 pages you've called Eagle dumb, his DNF not injury related, a certified specialist a Bro, what else. I guess DGCR can be a bit harsh, huh.